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Post by countyfan on May 17, 2018 11:00:46 GMT
If Henderson is named as captain i'm going to put my foot through my TV and send the FA the bill!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 12:13:43 GMT
I don't believe Henderson would be a bad choice for captain, given the lack of other options.
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Post by gazz on May 17, 2018 12:28:11 GMT
I don't believe Henderson would be a bad choice for captain, given the lack of other options. It's not exactly Hobson's choice, gts - there are plenty of others he could give it to who will be just as adept at guiding the squad back to Stansted within the first two weeks!  |
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Post by countyfan on May 17, 2018 14:03:22 GMT
Henderson is awful, he doesn't bring anything to any team he plays for!! It's unbelievable to think if Liverpool somehow manage to win the Champions League he'll be lifting the trophy!! I can't think of a poorer captain for Liverpool in their history!!!
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Post by archie on May 17, 2018 15:14:22 GMT
The man wearing the arm-band should be the one who commands most respect from the referee. This is why so many countries nominate the player with the most caps as they've usually had previous experience of the top referees and are able to communicate with them.
In terms of motivation of the other players, you want as many of those as possible and wearing an arm-band has no bearing on ability to perform that role.
I think that the starting eleven that Southgate is planning is:
Pickford
Trippier/Walker/Stones/Maguire/Young
Dier/Henderson
Sterling/Kane/Lingard
The captain will, therefore, be one of Henderson, Dier and Kane. My preference would be Kane.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 15:32:59 GMT
The only basis for Kane being named captain is that he is our best player. Aside from that he has zero captaincy experience, and the childish way he behaved over claiming Eriksen's disputed goal the other week by "swearing on his daughter's life" isn't particularly mature or befitting for the captain of a national team. Not that it will be of any importance once we get dumped out of the group stage by Panama...
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Post by Epworth Hatter on May 17, 2018 15:33:15 GMT
Good shout, that, archie.
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Post by gazz on May 17, 2018 16:01:29 GMT
The only basis for Kane being named captain is that he is our best player. Aside from that he has zero captaincy experience He has, mate - he's captained England in the past. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 16:26:23 GMT
The only basis for Kane being named captain is that he is our best player. Aside from that he has zero captaincy experience He has, mate - he's captained England in the past. A friendly against France and WC qualifiers against Scotland, Lithuania and Slovenia are hardly anything to write home about. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 16:38:59 GMT
By that token, Henderson has also captained England in the past, 5 times in fact, in some equally thrilling contests. Friendlies against Netherlands and Spain, and WC qualifiers against Malta, Slovakia and Slovenia.
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Post by gazz on May 17, 2018 17:10:48 GMT
He has, mate - he's captained England in the past. A friendly against France and WC qualifiers against Scotland, Lithuania and Slovenia are hardly anything to write home about. I didn't say it was - you said he had zero captaincy experience. I wasn't arguing his case, I was pointing out a fact that he's had the armband on in the past - so what "token" are you referring to in my post? |
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Post by gazz on May 17, 2018 17:23:40 GMT
I feel I need to point out at this point that I couldn't care less who the Captain is, because the quality of the available candidates ranges from bad to worse.
I won't be taking any days off to watch any games that are on during my shift pattern, nor will I be attempting to watch them on my phone while in work - I've been let down by the England team one time too many, with Euro 2016 being the final straw.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on May 17, 2018 18:51:51 GMT
I can't think of a poorer captain for Liverpool in their history!!! three years of jamie redknapp. i think we're done here...  |
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on May 17, 2018 18:59:34 GMT
i think that's good logic archie. none of them are anywhere near robsons or butchers, but they've all played in big games at the right end of competitions, and been around that level for a few seasons. there's not huge experience in a lot of the squad, and i just don't see an older head like cahill being the right fit.
that said, they've all had a bit of a charisma bypass, especially dier. henderson often reverts to dull platitudes and kane's face reminds me of a spoon. i'd quite like someone who could get us to see out matches on willpower alone, who gets the belief from his teammates. sadly, i don't think there's anything like that near the england squad.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 6:35:21 GMT
For comparison, the French squad has been announced, and the following players haven't made the cut and are on the 'standby' list!
- W. Ben Yedder
- K. Coman
- B. Costil
- M. Debuchy
- L. Digne
- A. Lacazette
- A. Martial
- A. Rabiot
- M. Sakho
- M. Sissoko
- K. Zouma
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