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Post by ceefer on May 26, 2020 20:28:41 GMT
Gove!!!!!
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Post by gazz on May 27, 2020 11:34:59 GMT
Is anyone else thinking that this Cummings thing is another government diversion, at a time when total deaths are said to be actually nearer to 60,000?
I think Cummings is playing the media here to shield the government from the flak of their handling of this. I think Cummings will go, I will put money on it - a willing, well-compensated sacrificial lamb.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 27, 2020 12:08:14 GMT
I was thinking along similar lines, Gazz - and also by way of a distraction in the days leading up to the planned re-opening of schools.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on May 27, 2020 12:18:46 GMT
Apparently Boris told Cummings his was a little short sighted in going to Barnard Castle !!
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Post by bigfudge on May 27, 2020 21:45:35 GMT
Everyday I think, surely this is it, surely we've bottomed out as a nation now....but then the Tories.....
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 3:30:47 GMT
Is anyone else thinking that this Cummings thing is another government diversion, at a time when total deaths are said to be actually nearer to 60,000? I think Cummings is playing the media here to shield the government from the flak of their handling of this. I think Cummings will go, I will put money on it - a willing, well-compensated sacrificial lamb. I think it goes way deeper than that. In the long term 60 000+ deaths are collateral damage and an inconvenient fact that, as Cummings has amply demonstrated can be overcome by lies and the re-writing of history. The Cummings/Tory relationship is one of mutual benefit. Cummings is on a mission to completely reorganise the way this country is governed. He despises the Tory Party but it's giving him the opportunity exercise his fantasies and complete what he sees as his messianic purpose to reinvent and replace a civil service he also despises with a privatised and politicised version along US lines. The Tory Party in its turn loath Cummings but its leadership are prepared to tolerate him because they know that the road he's leading this country down will lead to the destruction of the state as we presently understand it but one in which they will be permanently in power. Viewed through that lens the lies and deceit and the fact that they appear so relaxed about the prospect of a vote for Scottish independence suddenly become understandable. I doubt that the Thatcher had this in mind when she started ripping up what Locke described as the Social Contract but it's the logical conclusion of her malignant legacy. If the Tories know nothing else they know how to put themselves first. What else was Brexit about if it wasn't about the preservation of their Party? They also know how to manipulate public opinion by whipping up nationalist sentiment, why else would they continue to couch everything in terms of war? Why else does Johnson like to reference Churchill? It's because we "defeated" Hitler, the Kaiser and before that Napoleon, when in point of fact "we" did nothing of the sort. Dunkirk was a spectacular military defeat, this country saved from the same fate suffered by most of western Europe by the channel. By 1941 this country was entirely reliant on US financial aid, to all intents and purposes so skint we were unable to prosecute resistance on our own. Its post war recovery was entirely reliant on Marshall aid (this country was given more Marshall aid than the West Germans) as well as a massive US loan that no other country was given, a recovery that was so far behind the EU as it became, we joined it. WWl was slightly different and probably this country's greatest effort although again as a secondary role to that of the French and it still required US involvement to bring it to a close by 1918 and as for the Napoleonic wars, don't get me started. The problem with stirring up nationalism is it very quickly gets out of control and that, as history repeatedly demonstrates is very dangerous territory.
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Post by gazz on May 28, 2020 12:57:18 GMT
Durham police say Cummings committed a "minor breach" of lockdown restrictions, yet decide not to fine him as he wasn't breaching social distancing rules.` What a f***ing cop out, no pun intended as the Police are a joke in their own right - the slippery b*st*rd shouldn't have even been up there. I've not seen my kids or any member of my family since February, even though it's destroying me more and more by the f***ing day, because I'm following the f***ing rules. I could have used my 'key worker' ID card from work to take a train to Stockport and lie that I'm on the way home from work, but I haven't, because I abide by the f***ing rules and I care about the safety and well-being of others. Lying tw##.
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Post by archie on May 28, 2020 17:10:42 GMT
A Cummings is now a golf term. A really long drive that goes way out of bounds and incurs no penalty.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on May 28, 2020 17:55:17 GMT
Brilliant Archie !!!!
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Post by ceefer on May 28, 2020 18:53:29 GMT
This really is a joke, what are our MP's playing at? More stuff slipping through. tinyurl.com/y8bqrftc
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 19:12:59 GMT
This really is a joke, what are our MP's playing at? More stuff slipping through. tinyurl.com/y8bqrftcThey're doing exactly what Michael Gove said they would be doing 3 months ago, namely removing the minimum standards that the EU required of food safety and quality. And still the mug punters fall the Tory Party's lies. Wait until the bastards start removing employment rights, environmental protections, take your pick.
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Post by gazz on May 28, 2020 19:48:13 GMT
And still the mug punters fall the Tory Party's lies. Wait until the b*st*rds start removing employment rights, environmental protections, take your pick. The only consolation that could possibly come from that would be if said mugs are the worst affected by it all.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 6:28:24 GMT
If you want to know where this is going look no further than "Britannia unchained". I've mentioned this intellectual tour de force on here before, it's authors include Liz Truss, former Management Accountant possessed of the standard PPE degree which, if nothing else in her background should be enough reason to steer clear. Dominic Raab, so grounded in reality that he hadn't realised the importance of the port of Dover in our trading relations with the continent. Chris Skidmore, another whose familiarity with reality is purely accidental joined the Tory Party as a teenager and has never done anything other than work for the party. Priti Patel, as racially motivated as they come, so gormless she recently crowed about the reduction in shoplifting crime whilst shops are shut due to Covid-19. She would cheerfully make immigration to this country so difficult her own parents wouldn't have been able to come here.
The product of the combined thought of these intellectual giants, thoughts so deep you could run through them without getting your ankles wet is a book in which they state that because the UK "rewards laziness" British workers "are amongst the worst idlers in the world". They have no facts to support this bullsh*t but if we've learnt nothing else during the last 4 years facts and the Tories are as ships passing in the night.
What is now abundantly clear is that what were once considered to be the canting extremists inhabiting the lunatic fringes of the far right of the Tory Party are now running it, and by extension the country without query or question by their cheerleaders in the right-wing press. Johnson, like Trump is beginning to look increasingly tyrannical. Unlike Trump, Johnson and the Tories are only just getting into their stride so watch this space and watch open-mouthed as these charlatans change this country because they intend to "stop bailing out the reckless, avoiding all risk and rewarding laziness". They intend to deal with those of us who "work the shortest hours, retire early" and whose "productivity is poor".
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Post by dudleyhatter on May 29, 2020 8:22:34 GMT
I moved here for many personal and professional reasons. Some of the biggest drivers were Brexit; the shambolic way teachers have been treated for the last decade; the rising tide of ignorance and hatred from a place I thought we had left in the 1980s; dreadful political bias in the media; the shunning of experts as a source of information; that bumbling two faced gibbering monkey Johnson running the country - preceded obviously by the cold-hearted and chillingly evil Mrs May (remember the Go Home vans?); the utter apathy shown by most of the populace to the erosion of their lifestyle; privatisation of everything - especially educational academies which have zero proven improvement compared to equivalent state funded schools and are a purely political tool to take power away from local authorities; this meant that it was increasingly difficult to find work in the state sector.
Today the sun is shining, I am taking my multinational students on a virtual world tour of Egyptian museums and sites, thanks to the bungling incompetence of the government elected to a massive majority by the previously mentioned apathetic populace of England I am unlikely to see my children this year - possibly at Christmas but I'm not at all certain of that.
But I am happy. I live in a country that underwent real lockdown and the population obeyed it almost perfectly, children did not go outside for 6 weeks, talking to them every day was one way I could help them. Now we are able to meet friends and go to each other's houses, sit at pavement bars and cafes and begin to enjoy life again. Is it the same, no but it feel here as if the virus is as under control as possible and the expectations for clearing each phase have been made clear as has the science behind it. We have a high death toll because so many people here live in extended family groups and there is, like Italy, an older population profile than in the UK.
Stay safe all, look after those who are your nearest and dearest, keep in touch with as many friends as possible. Oh and try and avoid watching too much coverage of this shower of faecal excuses for politicians!
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Post by gazz on May 29, 2020 8:37:40 GMT
Great posts, Yorks & Duds.
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