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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 29, 2020 10:25:35 GMT
Great posts, Yorks & Duds. Seconded. Excellent writing, gents.
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Post by dudleyhatter on May 29, 2020 12:53:53 GMT
And just to demonstrate how broken our (your!) country is, here is a police officer approaching an ambulance driver...
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 29, 2020 13:36:07 GMT
Jeez. There are no words...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 16:42:56 GMT
And that folks is what the ugly face of institutional racism looks like and it hasn't changed since I wore a pointy hat over 30 years ago
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Post by gazz on May 29, 2020 16:51:26 GMT
And just to demonstrate how broken our (your!) country is, here is a police officer approaching an ambulance driver... They need to name and shame that bitch, that is f***ing disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 12:31:27 GMT
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Post by gazz on May 30, 2020 17:14:29 GMT
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Post by dudleyhatter on Jun 8, 2020 11:07:33 GMT
Go on then, who is surprised by this?
Sickened and livid yes. Surprised no...
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Post by gazz on Jun 8, 2020 12:34:26 GMT
Somebody tell me this is an alternate reality and there's a way to get to the REAL 2020...... Please?
WTF is going on with the British people, can't they see that they're being f***ed over?
I'm becoming more and more ashamed of my country by the minute.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Jun 8, 2020 13:43:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 18:25:37 GMT
Cap doffing deference to money and privilege is very much alive and well, aided and abetted by a flat refusal by so many to engage with even the most basic levels of critical thinking. Yet these are the same people who like to bang on about "democracy". One of the pre-requisites for a functioning democracy is surely an educated electorate, an electorate who can see beyond the myth's and lies the current Tory Party specialise in. One of the greatest myths of all is that the Tories are good with the economy. Overall since 1946 and through to the end of the 2019/19 financial year Labour has been, overall, in office for 28 years and the Tories for 46. In that time according to the House of Commons Library, net total government borrowing has been £1,618 billion: £155 billion of borrowing predated that period, most paying for WW2. Of that sum 67.5%, or £1.092 billion was borrowed by the Tories. 32.5% or £526 billion was borrowed by Labour. The Tories have been in office for longer, of course. Restated per year the Tories have borrowed £24.3 billion a year on average in historic prices. Labour has borrowed £18.8 billion a year on average. Labour repaid debt in 7 years. At current prices Labour has borrowed approximately £28 billion a year and the Tories £33.6 billion. The Tories are always the party that borrows most and this, don't forget, is before the approximately £65 billion per month that they've been borrowing during the present crisis. This is not to say that Government borrowing is bad, personally speaking it I don't think it is. The issue I have with it is the deceit that supports the myth. I could go on of course about how the debt is spent as I think it despicable to maintain artificially low rates of income tax whilst so many remain homeless, records which are, I suspect about to be blown out of the water along with unemployment figures and numbers relying on foodbanks and other charities. Why is education so important to the functioning of a democracy? Because it helps the electorate differentiate between facts and this kind of thing. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-labour-website-purchase-jeremy-corbyn-margaret-beckett-vote-a9231301.htmland this www.forbes.com/sites/simonchandler/2019/12/14/thousands-of-misleading-facebook-ads-help-conservatives-to-crushing-uk-election-victory/#52062d733382. One could go on. The false and misleading statements made around sovereignty, the release of vast amounts of cash to spend on the NHS, the queue of Turks trying to get to this country once the EU has admitted them, an EU army, the effects of the Human Rights act on our way of life, EU attempts to regulate the shape of banana's, that we'll leave with a trade deal that means that there'll be no down side, that environmental protections are safe, that food produced to negligible standards by the US won't be allowed into this country, there'll be no internal border down the Irish Sea. FFS! All that's needed is a mildly enquiring mind, a degree of intelligence to process the information and a major dose of scepticism when it comes to the motives of the political classes and, more specifically, the people who are financing them.
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Post by gazz on Jun 8, 2020 18:55:54 GMT
Cap doffing deference to money and privilege is very much alive and well, aided and abetted by a flat refusal by so many to engage with even the most basic levels of critical thinking. Yet these are the same people who like to bang on about "democracy". One of the pre-requisites for a functioning democracy is surely an educated electorate, an electorate who can see beyond the myth's and lies the current Tory Party specialise in. One of the greatest myths of all is that the Tories are good with the economy. Overall since 1946 and through to the end of the 2019/19 financial year Labour has been, overall, in office for 28 years and the Tories for 46. In that time according to the House of Commons Library, net total government borrowing has been £1,618 billion: £155 billion of borrowing predated that period, most paying for WW2. Of that sum 67.5%, or £1.092 billion was borrowed by the Tories. 32.5% or £526 billion was borrowed by Labour. The Tories have been in office for longer, of course. Restated per year the Tories have borrowed £24.3 billion a year on average in historic prices. Labour has borrowed £18.8 billion a year on average. Labour repaid debt in 7 years. At current prices Labour has borrowed approximately £28 billion a year and the Tories £33.6 billion. The Tories are always the party that borrows most and this, don't forget, is before the approximately £65 billion per month that they've been borrowing during the present crisis. This is not to say that Government borrowing is bad, personally speaking it I don't think it is. The issue I have with it is the deceit that supports the myth. I could go on of course about how the debt is spent as I think it despicable to maintain artificially low rates of income tax whilst so many remain homeless, records which are, I suspect about to be blown out of the water along with unemployment figures and numbers relying on foodbanks and other charities. Why is education so important to the functioning of a democracy? Because it helps the electorate differentiate between facts and this kind of thing. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-labour-website-purchase-jeremy-corbyn-margaret-beckett-vote-a9231301.htmland this www.forbes.com/sites/simonchandler/2019/12/14/thousands-of-misleading-facebook-ads-help-conservatives-to-crushing-uk-election-victory/#52062d733382. One could go on. The false and misleading statements made around sovereignty, the release of vast amounts of cash to spend on the NHS, the queue of Turks trying to get to this country once the EU has admitted them, an EU army, the effects of the Human Rights act on our way of life, EU attempts to regulate the shape of banana's, that we'll leave with a trade deal that means that there'll be no down side, that environmental protections are safe, that food produced to negligible standards by the US won't be allowed into this country, there'll be no internal border down the Irish Sea. FFS! All that's needed is a mildly enquiring mind, a degree of intelligence to process the information and a major dose of scepticism when it comes to the motives of the political classes and, more specifically, the people who are financing them. You need to start writing this stuff for a wider audience, Yorks, because you if you change just one person's mind, they then go out and try to change another's and then pretty soon you've made a real difference - I'm fed up of telling you, mate.
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Post by dudleyhatter on Jun 8, 2020 18:59:57 GMT
All that's needed is a mildly enquiring mind, a degree of intelligence to process the information Sadly this is what is missing from so many of the electorate, your points are as ever spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 19:37:38 GMT
Cap doffing deference to money and privilege is very much alive and well, aided and abetted by a flat refusal by so many to engage with even the most basic levels of critical thinking. Yet these are the same people who like to bang on about "democracy". One of the pre-requisites for a functioning democracy is surely an educated electorate, an electorate who can see beyond the myth's and lies the current Tory Party specialise in. One of the greatest myths of all is that the Tories are good with the economy. Overall since 1946 and through to the end of the 2019/19 financial year Labour has been, overall, in office for 28 years and the Tories for 46. In that time according to the House of Commons Library, net total government borrowing has been £1,618 billion: £155 billion of borrowing predated that period, most paying for WW2. Of that sum 67.5%, or £1.092 billion was borrowed by the Tories. 32.5% or £526 billion was borrowed by Labour. The Tories have been in office for longer, of course. Restated per year the Tories have borrowed £24.3 billion a year on average in historic prices. Labour has borrowed £18.8 billion a year on average. Labour repaid debt in 7 years. At current prices Labour has borrowed approximately £28 billion a year and the Tories £33.6 billion. The Tories are always the party that borrows most and this, don't forget, is before the approximately £65 billion per month that they've been borrowing during the present crisis. This is not to say that Government borrowing is bad, personally speaking it I don't think it is. The issue I have with it is the deceit that supports the myth. I could go on of course about how the debt is spent as I think it despicable to maintain artificially low rates of income tax whilst so many remain homeless, records which are, I suspect about to be blown out of the water along with unemployment figures and numbers relying on foodbanks and other charities. Why is education so important to the functioning of a democracy? Because it helps the electorate differentiate between facts and this kind of thing. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-labour-website-purchase-jeremy-corbyn-margaret-beckett-vote-a9231301.htmland this www.forbes.com/sites/simonchandler/2019/12/14/thousands-of-misleading-facebook-ads-help-conservatives-to-crushing-uk-election-victory/#52062d733382. One could go on. The false and misleading statements made around sovereignty, the release of vast amounts of cash to spend on the NHS, the queue of Turks trying to get to this country once the EU has admitted them, an EU army, the effects of the Human Rights act on our way of life, EU attempts to regulate the shape of banana's, that we'll leave with a trade deal that means that there'll be no down side, that environmental protections are safe, that food produced to negligible standards by the US won't be allowed into this country, there'll be no internal border down the Irish Sea. FFS! All that's needed is a mildly enquiring mind, a degree of intelligence to process the information and a major dose of scepticism when it comes to the motives of the political classes and, more specifically, the people who are financing them. You need to start writing this stuff for a wider audience, Yorks, because you if you change just one person's mind, they then go out and try to change another's and then pretty soon you've made a real difference - I'm fed up of telling you, mate. Given the effects that the present crisis is already having on the aviation industry and the fact that my employers order book has shrunk dramatically in recent weeks I'm likely to find myself with a lot more time on my hands in the none too distant future.
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Post by bigfudge on Jun 9, 2020 5:37:58 GMT
I remember in the early 2000s, Blair and Bush were thought of as the coming of Satan....what I would give to have them two in power now...and no, this isn't a compliment to them two!
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