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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2013 15:42:15 GMT
I'd follow them anywhere as long as they stayed in Stockport, if they left the town boundaries then it's no longer in Stockport so it's not Stockport County, so no I wouldn't.
In short, Woodley = Yes Hyde = No
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Post by Fez on Dec 16, 2013 15:45:40 GMT
I'd follow them anywhere as long as they stayed in Stockport, if they left the town boundaries then it's no longer in Stockport so it's not Stockport County, so no I wouldn't. In short, Woodley = Yes Hyde = No It would be the final nail in the coffin for me.
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Post by countytom89 on Dec 16, 2013 15:46:45 GMT
Don't get me wrong I liked Jim as a manager and his first time he did great but was allowed to spend money that we didn't have. When he didn't have money then that's where he failed. If he does it with Northwich then I will say yeah lets give it a crack again. Until he proves he can do it in the non league I maintain we need someone fresh.
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Post by grheatley on Dec 16, 2013 15:56:09 GMT
Unfair to blame the manager for spending money he didn't have. If he approached the board and they said yes, then that is the boards fault not the managers.
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Post by gazz on Dec 16, 2013 16:21:24 GMT
Jim's been done to death I think.
Back to the question, I think Fez nailed it, another managerial sacking will just serve as yet another smokescreen while they get more seats in at Lambeth Grove.
Said it two years ago, and I think that's where we're heading. I say 'we're', but it won't be a 'we' when it happens, it'll be a 'you'. Because I won't be going.
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Post by marketharborough on Dec 16, 2013 17:15:54 GMT
Alan Lord is doing a reasonable in a very difficult place - he has at least one hand tied behind his back with the lack of ambition and money this club has (how we have no money with the crowds that we get - I do not know and would love an answer to how we spend all the money.
If Alan is not the answer, and that is a big if (given current scenario) then we need an experienced non league manager, someone who knows the circuit like the back of his/her hand - and I'm sorry to say to all the Gannon fans (much as I like the guy) he has no pedigree at non league level in my opinion.
No point in sacking anyone this season - Alan is just setting out his team, a new manager would come in, change it all around (remember there is no transfer window at this level), spend 6 months trying to get it right, and then where are we - Northern Premier League. No stability is the key on the playing/managerial side.
What we need is the Directors/Shareholders to stand up and be County'd, if they don't want in - then please exit into Mercian Way and find some who would like to turn into Hardcastle Road
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Post by grheatley on Dec 16, 2013 17:37:27 GMT
I don't think AL is doing a reasonable job. He just doesn't seen to be a motivator, and I am not accepting the budget/money argument it has been said the playing budget has been ring fenced and is more than competitive at this level I recall a top four budget in the league being mentioned. The worry is nothing is done and we just fade away.....
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Post by gazz on Dec 16, 2013 18:10:44 GMT
Some interesting points on this thread, but I think what is clear is that Alan has stepped up to the plate more out of necessity than desire, and it looks to be really getting to him now. I don't think we should be debating whether or not he is up to the job so much as I believe that is unfair on him, because he only took the job as caretaker in the first place. A couple of half decent results and an opportunity for McKnight to exploit Alan's loyalty meant that he became full-time. He took the job for the benefit of the club & its fans, no other reason.
I feel for him, none of this is his fault, yet there are some on YB ripping into almost on a daily basis. Bogie dropped him in it, he bolted at the first sign of trouble.
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Post by sirroger on Dec 16, 2013 18:27:28 GMT
Some interesting points on this thread, but I think what is clear is that Alan has stepped up to the plate more out of necessity than desire, and it looks to be really getting to him now. I don't think we should be debating whether or not he is up to the job so much as I believe that is unfair on him, because he only took the job as caretaker in the first place. A couple of half decent results and an opportunity for McKnight to exploit Alan's loyalty meant that he became full-time. He took the job for the benefit of the club & its fans, no other reason. I feel for him, none of this is his fault, yet there are some on YB ripping into almost on a daily basis. Bogie dropped him in it, he bolted at the first sign of trouble. Good post, gazza. The fault is in the hands of the suits. McKnight should have done the decent thing and left in May. Fern didn't want Jim and left it to Snape and McKnight to do the necessary. The endless crazy decisions made over recent times, simply beggars belief. We could put the Club cat in charge (if we had one) and it wouldn't make any difference. McKnight would make it redundant anyway. We're rudderless, clueless, pennieless, hopeless and heading into oblivion.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Dec 16, 2013 19:47:55 GMT
like fudge says, seven managers in two and a bit years in non-league, and three managers the season before that. where's it got us? regional football.
it's hard to get behind them when it's so awful, but i struggle to blame alan lord. he's taken it on at our lowest ebb, and sadly, he's probably going to end up getting booed out of the club. i hope not - sooner or later, one's got to stick, otherwise we will keep failing. if we keep failing for much longer, the club will go bust. we need somebody with a few resources, plenty of vision and plenty of bottle as a new investor. that's more important to put right first.
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Post by collingecounty on Dec 16, 2013 23:14:31 GMT
AL not a manager, but let him see the season out. JG loves the club. The board are fools. Wish the first two above could be sorted out at end of the season, and the last now-if a takeover was on the cards now.
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Post by stuinedgeley on Dec 17, 2013 1:29:36 GMT
I think the point is being missed. Changing management will not alter our results while we have players some of which are not trying. Those that are trying are being undermined by those squad players who are just here for the money and looking for a leg up into the higher divisions without the effort.
Jim brought success but in order for that to happen again the players must be as a whole group willing and determined to make it happen and I believe some don't see county as a future just a stop gap - it pays the bills.
We as fans need to recognise this and don't give Lordy a hard time. Once the financial issues have been corrected I think we shall see a change in squad and a change in results. Not because money brings success but because we will no longer be a stop gap - part time clubs don't play league 2 football.
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Post by siriusiron on Dec 17, 2013 7:54:29 GMT
I joked that we were watching a panto on Saturday, confirmed within minutes of the ball bouncing off a County butt for Brackley to score!
I love Lordy and will support him but I do feel that he needs more assistance. Hopefully his new 2nd will be useful.
As for a return of the Ghost. I am in the No camp for that one. Let's find a new legend.
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Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2013 8:37:31 GMT
Bring in Jarkko
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Dec 17, 2013 8:53:49 GMT
Is THAT why he's visiting this Saturday?!
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