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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 3, 2024 9:11:03 GMT
Setting this up, in advance of such close-season developments there may be!
Post it all here, as and when...
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 6, 2024 16:43:18 GMT
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on May 6, 2024 17:26:22 GMT
That is sad news about Paddy. Think he was worth another season as reward. Perhaps a year's extension not enough for him and he will have a 2-3 year deal set up somewhere else.
Think we need to keep MSH and Sarcevic as well as Ben who deserved at least one more year. CLE perhaps will perform at League 1 level as well.
Otherwise we need some added strength to fill that squad.
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Post by gazz on May 6, 2024 17:34:28 GMT
I don't know what's gone on regarding the talks between Paddy and the club, but if it transpired that they didn't offer him more than a year then I'll be incredibly pissed off. Without Paddy's goals where would we be right now?
He's the League One record goal-getter, isn't he? Who better to have around the squad in that division? I'm not happy about that.
On the plus side, there's dialogue between Macca and the club which I'm really pleased to read, but obviously it depends on what they offer him. The club better not take the piss, he deserves another contract, and a decent one - simple as.
CLE surely has to get something too, because he's been excellent and played a massive part in us getting over the line.
Sarce too, his experience and talent will be ideal, so that's a no-brainer too.
As for Ben, that one speaks for itself.
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Post by harrogatehatter on May 6, 2024 18:06:24 GMT
Thanks to Ryan Croasdale, he proved to be a great signing for us. Likewise Myles Hippolyte. Paddy Madden really came good in the run in to the season. Outstanding player for us.
It’s a shame we couldn’t agree terms but I’m not too disappointed as I’m not sure he would have been first choice next season and he is on a good wage which, in the cold light of day, could be better used bringing in new players.
I suspect that a few of the players under contract for next season will be allowed to leave.
Hopefully those in negotiations can reach agreement. I think they are all L1 quality or potential to be.
Finally, I really hope we can get Louie Barry back either on loan or even as a permanent signing.
As to the other players being released I wish them all well with their future footballing careers.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 6, 2024 18:06:58 GMT
Agree with all of you on those various points, Gazz, Harrogate and Lennie. I've not been privy to anything around the Paddy talks, but it reads to me very much as if he wanted two years and the club wouldn't budge beyond one. There's a club tweet saying, with reference to Paddy, It's not goodbye, it's see you soon, and I've no idea what that could mean - unless he's signed for a League One rival, joining another club that we'll play in a pre-season friendly, or coming back to EP in a coaching capacity or some such... Sorry, but much less surprised, to see Crossy and Hippo released. Both have been excellent for us, and, like Paddy, are owed huge debts of gratitude for their contributions to two title successes. As for the ongoing dialogues, would love to see Ben, CLE, MSH, Rydel and Sarce all back with us next term.
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Post by autistichatter on May 7, 2024 5:15:24 GMT
Curious that there's no mention of Keane Barugh on the press release, maybe just an oversight.
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Post by countyfan on May 7, 2024 8:45:22 GMT
I'm probably in the minority but Paddy leaving doesn't bother me in the slightest, Yes he's been great for us over the past few years and knows where the goal is. But he's not getting any younger and there's some good/big teams in League 1 with younger fast defenders which I think Paddy just wouldn't be able to deal with.
Looking forward to seeing who comes in to replace him.
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Post by dudleyhatter on May 7, 2024 9:56:42 GMT
As much as change is difficult, when we move through the leagues we all know there are players who might be okay in a middle to lower league 1 side but for me this shows ambition to move forwards. It was similar when we left the national league two years ago, do we want to give players ‘a chance’ to prove their good enough by signing them to contracts that we find they will not be played for. With Paddy I think a one year deal offer from the club is fair. Is he really likely to be playing for us at hopefully the top end of League 1 when he is 36? The tweet sent out by the club hints that he will be returning maybe in a coaching capacity? Whilst still playing elsewhere probably because he can certainly still do the job at League 2 level.
In the club we must trust, even Simon Wilson…
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Post by gazz on May 7, 2024 11:25:37 GMT
As much as change is difficult, when we move through the leagues we all know there are players who might be okay in a middle to lower league 1 side but for me this shows ambition to move forwards. It was similar when we left the national league two years ago, do we want to give players ‘a chance’ to prove their good enough by signing them to contracts that we find they will not be played for. With Paddy I think a one year deal offer from the club is fair. Is he really likely to be playing for us at hopefully the top end of League 1 when he is 36? The tweet sent out by the club hints that he will be returning maybe in a coaching capacity? Whilst still playing elsewhere probably because he can certainly still do the job at League 2 level. In the club we must trust, even Simon Wilson… You ruined a very good post with that last bit, Duds. Seriously, though, you do make a very good point.
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Post by dudleyhatter on May 7, 2024 12:01:00 GMT
Knew you’d like that one Gazz 😉
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Post by gazz on May 8, 2024 4:08:55 GMT
We've always got on with it in the past when certain players leave, and there have been some that really pissed me off like Quinn, Oshor, Bill going to City, Brett (that Southend tribunal figure will always grate me), Kev, Neil Edwards, I could go on.
Paddy is another, but as others have said, it'll probably make sense when the new signings arrive - providing they don't f*** it up, of course. Locking Wilson in a cupboard for a few weeks should help with that
I really hope the rumours of a coaching role for Paddy are true.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on May 8, 2024 8:16:52 GMT
A class act from a classy player.
I will be very interested to see where he goes from hear. I believe he has a couple more years in his locker (league 2 ?) and will be a great asset to his new employers.
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Post by autistichatter on May 8, 2024 16:50:49 GMT
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Post by autistichatter on May 8, 2024 16:51:52 GMT
PS Sam Byrne hears Paddy may be going to Chesterfield....
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