Post by another_ruined_saturday on Mar 6, 2014 20:28:28 GMT
one of the posters on the NLF has posted how the CN/CS split is worked out for us newbies. still as clear as mud! thought i'd post for info:
"At the end of the season, the CN and CS leagues are initially treated as a single pool of 44 Clubs. Then, from among those eligible to play at Step 2 at the time of the AGM (usually in June), the 22 most northern and the 22 most southern are selected to play in CN and CS respectively next season. * Note - latitude may not be the absolute criterion used, but this has remained untested so far (cue the south-west/east Anglia debate). Post-AGM changes in which Clubs get moved between CN and CS can and have happened after June (cue how such late decisions warrant millions in compensation).
That pool will be made up of the 34 remnant CN and CS Clubs (ie the 17 not promoted or relegated from each league), and an additional 10, being the four relegated from the Conference, and two promoted from each of the Evostick, Calor Gas and Rymans leagues.
No side is guaranteed to be in CN or CS, but of course geography dictates that the most northerly are going to be in CN, and the most southerly in the CS.
A key question is which clubs currently in the CN can be considered to be vulnerable to being shifted south, and which current CS Clubs might be vulnerable to being shifted north
Regarding CN, that vulnerability depends on who has left the CN at the end of the current season, and who joins. For example, if Brackley and Solihull Moors were to be promoted, and Oxford, Gloucester and Worcester relegated, then Histon and Leamington would be most vulnerable. The fewer of these 'southern' CN Clubs that get promoted and relegated at the end of the season, the more they themselves make up the vulnerable group.
The other big factor is who comes down, and who comes up. The two Evostick promoted Clubs are normally shoe-ins for the CN. But among the other eight, either all eight could be northern, or all could be southern. The Calor Gas has Clubs like Stourbridge who would be well north of half a dozen current CN Clubs, and even the Rymans has Lowestoft.
But it always has been a mix of southern and northern, in the past tending at its most skewed to a 5:3 split.
So, depending on how many of them are southern, allied to just how southern they are, determines whether Clubs like Bishops Stortford or even Chelmsford (as was a possibility a couple of years back) could get shifted north.
Conversely, how many of them are northern and just how northern they are determines whether Midlands Clubs in the CN could get shifted south.
Hope that's clear, then."
"At the end of the season, the CN and CS leagues are initially treated as a single pool of 44 Clubs. Then, from among those eligible to play at Step 2 at the time of the AGM (usually in June), the 22 most northern and the 22 most southern are selected to play in CN and CS respectively next season. * Note - latitude may not be the absolute criterion used, but this has remained untested so far (cue the south-west/east Anglia debate). Post-AGM changes in which Clubs get moved between CN and CS can and have happened after June (cue how such late decisions warrant millions in compensation).
That pool will be made up of the 34 remnant CN and CS Clubs (ie the 17 not promoted or relegated from each league), and an additional 10, being the four relegated from the Conference, and two promoted from each of the Evostick, Calor Gas and Rymans leagues.
No side is guaranteed to be in CN or CS, but of course geography dictates that the most northerly are going to be in CN, and the most southerly in the CS.
A key question is which clubs currently in the CN can be considered to be vulnerable to being shifted south, and which current CS Clubs might be vulnerable to being shifted north
Regarding CN, that vulnerability depends on who has left the CN at the end of the current season, and who joins. For example, if Brackley and Solihull Moors were to be promoted, and Oxford, Gloucester and Worcester relegated, then Histon and Leamington would be most vulnerable. The fewer of these 'southern' CN Clubs that get promoted and relegated at the end of the season, the more they themselves make up the vulnerable group.
The other big factor is who comes down, and who comes up. The two Evostick promoted Clubs are normally shoe-ins for the CN. But among the other eight, either all eight could be northern, or all could be southern. The Calor Gas has Clubs like Stourbridge who would be well north of half a dozen current CN Clubs, and even the Rymans has Lowestoft.
But it always has been a mix of southern and northern, in the past tending at its most skewed to a 5:3 split.
So, depending on how many of them are southern, allied to just how southern they are, determines whether Clubs like Bishops Stortford or even Chelmsford (as was a possibility a couple of years back) could get shifted north.
Conversely, how many of them are northern and just how northern they are determines whether Midlands Clubs in the CN could get shifted south.
Hope that's clear, then."
