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Post by hatter_in_macc on Sept 7, 2017 8:57:50 GMT
Over the Pennines we go this Saturday, to take on yet another of our old rivals from the Football League days.
And York, like Bratfud last Saturday, have a few former Hatters - Sean Newton (Captain), Kaine Felix, Amari Morgan-Smith, Adriano Moke - potentially to field against us.
Always used to be a nice day out in bygone times. Let us hope this one turns out that way, too!
You know what to do...
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Post by gazz on Sept 7, 2017 9:11:33 GMT
No doubt there'll be plenty of bantz between Newtz and Nolz around this particular weekend! As for Newtz being York Captain - isn't the Captain supposed to be loyal enough to be the last to leave a sinking ship?   |
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Sept 7, 2017 11:28:34 GMT
There's a blast from the past, Gazz!  And here's my 'Take Five' piece for COWS... ***************************************************************************************************** TAKE FIVE… York CityBy Hatter in Macc1. Next up - a fourth former Football League club to face in five games? York-idding! Arf.Indeed I am not! The ‘Minstermen’ clocked up some 72 seasons there, and over two separate spells. Having been refounded in 1922 from the remains of a defunct, originally amateur, club (1908-17), they were first elected from the Midland League to replace Ashington in 1929, dropped out 75 years later, but regained their FL place for 2012 - via the (then) Blue Square Premier play-offs - to enjoy another four campaigns in League Two until the curse of relegation struck again. A second successive demotion last term sees them in the National League North for the first time. All but two of their League years were spent in the third and fourth tiers - and they were among the founder members of Division Four, following reorganisation in 1958. Prior to that, however, the club did establish a record in 1954/55 after it became the first outfit from a regionalised Division Three to earn an FA Cup semi-final replay - losing to eventual winners Newcastle United. 2. Surely, then, another old rival with whom we Hatters have had a good few dealings?We have not played them in regular League meetings quite as often as we did our last opponents, Southport, but adding the two Second Division (as was) play-off semi-finals from 1993/94 - which the Hatters won on aggregate, thanks to a Chris Beaumont goal at Edgeley Park - would draw them precisely level. And, as was the case with Southport (until Tuesday!), some time has passed since County’s last victory against York - with that having come over 20 years ago, and by the odd goal in three, in our penultimate home game of the 1996/97 promotion campaign. One of County’s earliest trips to York - our fourth-ever, in the old Third Division North on 31 August 1932 - marked the official opening of City’s current home, Bootham Crescent. And travelling Hatters may want to make the most of Saturday’s jaunt - the 43rd to the ground, in all competitions - as work will begin next month on a new Community Stadium, to be shared, with effect from 2019, by the Minstermen and the York City Knights rugby league team (who have, since last year, played at Bootham Crescent - a venue no longer, incidentally, carrying the ‘Kit Kat’ prefix that marked a sponsorship deal with the local Nestlé factory between 2005 and 2010). 3. And how have they fared more recently, in the non-league world?Until last season’s back-to-back relegation calamity, reasonably well. And even then, they finished the 2016/17 campaign on a positive note by lifting the FA Trophy after a five-goal thriller against Macclesfield Town. York are, in fact, the only club to have won the Trophy during different stints as a non-league outfit - having previously done so when beating Newport County 2-0, in 2012, as part of a ‘double’ that saw the Minstermen also return briefly to the Football League. They are remaining a full-time side this term. And their non-league record against County, although limited to a pair of 2-1 victories during 2011/12, is infallible… thus far! 4. As with our other old League rivals, a few players must have turned out for both clubs?Quite correct. From the days when we enjoyed FL status together, perhaps the one who most immediately springs to mind is Tony Barras (at County from 1990-94), who moved directly from EP to Bootham Cresent and memorably scored for the Minstermen in their three-goal League Cup drubbing of our near-Manchester-neighbours at Old Trafford in 1995. Defender Steve Faulkner (1978), midfielders Chris Galvin (1979-81) and Kieron Durkan (1996-98), and winger Rob Matthews (1998-2001), also had spells at York. More recently, the likes of Richard Brodie (2016), Elliott Chamberlain (2011), Oli Johnson (2008-10), Danny Pilkington (2008-11) and ace bassist Jah Wobble’s lad, Charlie Wardle (who played in our Cheshire Senior Cup-ties last season), have previously been on York’s non-league books. The Minstermen’s current roster, meanwhile, includes four ex-Hatters who may feature this weekend: namely, defender, and captain, Sean Newton (2012-13), wingers Kaine Felix (on loan to us from York in 2016/17) and Adriano Moke (2013/14), and striker Amari Morgan-Smith (2007/08). 5. What are the odds on a County win?You know better than to ask me. But if we do win, it could be a good omen. In all four seasons when the Hatters have met the Minstermen and gone on to win promotion, they have done the ‘double’ over them! So, watch this space… and keep those (Kit Kat) fingers crossed! |
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Post by gazz on Sept 7, 2017 12:53:13 GMT
This really is a brilliant idea, with this being another fine read, Maccy!  |
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Sept 7, 2017 23:30:50 GMT
Thanks, matey!  |
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Sept 8, 2017 8:45:47 GMT
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on Sept 8, 2017 10:09:33 GMT
Superb read.
This site is becoming an encyclopedia of obscure lower league football knowledge.
World leaders.
Nice one Macca. You out-google even google.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Sept 8, 2017 12:36:03 GMT
Nice one Macca. You out-google even google. Cheers, Lennie. Have gone 'old school' and used a few books, from time to time, too!  |
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Post by hermannsays on Sept 8, 2017 17:56:56 GMT
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Post by ceefer on Sept 8, 2017 18:00:13 GMT
Think this has a draw written all over it which would be a decent result.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 17:32:31 GMT
That was disappointing after Tuesday. We were all over the place for much of the first 30 minutes and looked like getting a bit of a pasting. Credit to the players for picking it up in the second half and we had a couple of half chances but you can't go giving teams like that a 2 goal start and expect to get away with it
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Post by harrogatehatter on Sept 9, 2017 22:07:43 GMT
That was a disappointment. We lost that in the first half. It was very poor. Second half was an improvement but York never has to get out of second gear really.
Don't understand subbing Sam Minihan for Cowan after 25 minutes? He wasn't injured?
Darren Stephenson was a massive disappointment after the game he had on Tuesday. Hope he's not going to be one of the many players we've had who will play well for one game out of ten!!
Sam Walker continues to disappoint. I don't see what he brings to the team?
At the start of the season I said we should be the best of the part time teams. I think that's still a possibility.
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Post by ceefer on Sept 10, 2017 10:22:12 GMT
York have the same ability that Chorley had when Stephenson played for them.....they know how to break quickly.something we need to learn and quickly.
York got stuck in and on many occasions on headers simply pushed into our players to win the ball.
Still cant see why the own goal wasnt allowed. It will be interesting to see what the foul was.
Sadly too many players off the pace. Back to the drawing board and roll on Tuesday. If we cant get a result against Telford I expect big team changes.
And on to York's programme ... very poor with just 2 pages on County players! At least we are better at programmes than they are.
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Post by forzablue on Sept 10, 2017 11:40:54 GMT
I think its time to give up on Stevenson. He was really poor yesterday. First touch, aggression, decision making were all dire. JG alluded to a lack of confidence/fitness a few games ago but it's obviously more than that, as he just doesn't look interested. Walker looks good when he has time on the ball but is very ineffective when closed down and he doesn't bring anything else (in terms of ball-winning, etc) to the team. When we are up against the better teams in the division I would have Stopforth (when match fit) or perhaps Brazel, even if only for his work rate. As I've said before, Minihan could also do a job as a defensive midfielder, freeing up Ball for CM. Against the 'lesser teams' then Walker would be a good choice.
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