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Post by bringbacklenwhite on Oct 31, 2020 11:32:47 GMT
I totally agree. My point is that we have no one who qualifies as a "statesman" in this country any more.
Don't worry though, the world will be OK after Tuesday when DT is re-elected by the masses. He has told us so, so he must be right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 11:50:57 GMT
Sorry, Gaffer, but Duds is right here. Corbyn's role in allowing these horrors into Downing Street should never be forgotten and be there as a lesson to any potential Labour leader, but how he would have dealt with this is just not relevant here. How ironic is it that on the day that polls suggest the Labour Party under Starmer now enjoys a 5% lead over this disgusting apology for a Government that the party's cult of opposition who've held sway for the past 5 years should be loyally standing by the cult's chief druid Jeremy Corbyn. No-one is suggesting that Corbyn is an anti-semite although he's been an enthusiastic and voluble cheerleader for some who are. What is being suggested is that as a manager (surely the party leader is nothing if not a manager) he was f***ing clueless. Why would anybody be surprised? Having been a politician since the early 80's his political achievements could be listed on a blank sheet of paper. His sole claim to fame is that he is second behind his fellow traveller in political obscurity John McDonnell in having voted against the Labour Party's official position over 400 times. This is the basis of his fabled "principles". Principles my arse! Read Lilian Greenwoods resignation speech when she stepped down from the shadow cabinet and weep. Corbyn was still following his "principles" when he undermined Greenwood, when he got up on his hind legs demanding article 50 be triggered the day after the Brexit vote despite it not being party policy to do so. The man's a liability who thinks it's all about him and his "principles" and he should be given every encouragement to p**s-off and take the fantasists who support him along with him to pursue their socialist wet-dream in a darkened room somewhere whilst the rest of us try and get on with getting the Labour Party back into power. As demonstrated yesterday with his statement being released before that of the party leader, it turns out that far from being a principled politician, he's a self-serving ego on stilts.
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Post by gazz on Oct 31, 2020 12:07:30 GMT
Brilliantly put, Yorks. It's just scary that Starmer's lead is only 5%, even after all the sh*t this lot have been and still are up to. Stockholm syndrome? I know it's only been a few weeks, but it's good to see you back posting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 12:12:43 GMT
Brilliantly put, Yorks. Good to see you back posting, by the way. Been having a sh*t time at work mate. Turns out my manager likes the managers salary, but not as much as he likes palming the responsibility for it onto me, including suddenly dumping the supervision of 10 staff onto me, on top of training 3 new engineers. Turns out that what I thought was the headlights on the front of the train heading towards me at a rate of knots is actually light shining through the window of the door marked exit!
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Post by gazz on Oct 31, 2020 12:23:14 GMT
Been having a sh*t time at work mate. Turns out my manager likes the managers salary, but not as much as he likes palming the responsibility for it onto me, including suddenly dumping the supervision of 10 staff onto me, on top of training 3 new engineers. Turns out that what I thought was the headlights on the front of the train heading towards me at a rate of knots is actually light shining through the window of the door marked exit! Sorry to hear that, mate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 12:39:17 GMT
Been having a sh*t time at work mate. Turns out my manager likes the managers salary, but not as much as he likes palming the responsibility for it onto me, including suddenly dumping the supervision of 10 staff onto me, on top of training 3 new engineers. Turns out that what I thought was the headlights on the front of the train heading towards me at a rate of knots is actually light shining through the window of the door marked exit! Sorry to hear that, mate. Don't be mate, I'm not. I actually put my ticket in a couple of months ago after the Engineering Director tried leaning on me to approve a document I wasn't qualified to approve. It was worth it for the look on the idiot's face but I was prevailed upon to withdraw it. It's the type of business that employs such people and they're a menace. There are reasons why the aerospace industry is a regulated industry. I'd like to think that no-one reading this post has the misfortune to be on an aircraft if it suffers an on-board fire at 30 000 feet caused by an electrical short in one of our lights but that concern doesn't seem to stretch to some of my senior colleagues. I'm not sure whether they're just terminally stupid, don't give a sh*t or lack the imagination. There's a job stacking shelves at the local co-op beckoning. Part-time, no stress, and time to develop other stuff I want to do.
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Post by gazz on Oct 31, 2020 12:46:48 GMT
Don't be mate, I'm not. I actually put my ticket in a couple of months ago after the Engineering Director tried leaning on me to approve a document I wasn't qualified to approve. It was worth it for the look on the idiot's face but I was prevailed upon to withdraw it. It's the type of business that employs such people and they're a menace. There are reasons why the aerospace industry is a regulated industry. I'd like to think that no-one reading this post has the misfortune to be on an aircraft if it suffers an on-board fire at 30 000 feet caused by an electrical short in one of our lights but that concern doesn't seem to stretch to some of my senior colleagues. I'm not sure whether they're just terminally stupid, don't give a sh*t or lack the imagination. There's a job stacking shelves at the local co-op beckoning. Part-time, no stress, and time to develop other stuff I want to do. That sounds like a hell of a responsibility you've got there, mate. I have issues with my own employer and regularly have to keep my own conscience in check for the sake of my job, as you probably know, but the lives of thousands of passengers rest on the decisions you have to make, so I honestly do not envy you there. Good for you standing up to that Director, mate, he sounds like a serious tw##.
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Post by dudleyhatter on Oct 31, 2020 14:30:49 GMT
People with a conscience seem in short supply at the top of food chains...
We were ‘told’ by our boss this week that we could only socialise in ‘family Bubbles’. While she flies back to the U.K. every weekend to rejoin her family bubble and left the country during lockdown after telling us we couldn’t...
Some of us don’t have a family bubble here. We are each other’s family so we have ignored her dictat and done as we bloody well like. (Whilst obviously adhering to the actual regulations stipulated by the local government!)
Good brave move NYE do what makes you feel happier!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:49:11 GMT
People with a conscience seem in short supply at the top of food chains... Good brave move NYE do what makes you feel happier! To be fair, the Op's Manager is one of the good guys and the reason I'm still there. Generally they are largely motivated by meeting production targets but this one is from an automotive background where failure is viewed as an opportunity to improve something and she's very supportive. Ultimately the decision boils down to preservation of one's health because long days, lack of sleep, drinking more than is good for me as a solution to sleeping badly and all the stress related crap that goes with it isn't worth it. Once the new starters are in a position to make their own decisions without relying on me for support, I'm off.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Oct 31, 2020 19:57:15 GMT
be there as a lesson to any potential Labour leader yes, but also, all the f***ing idiots on the left of the party who are kicking off at the moment. i still fail to understand the attraction of pissing about on the principled margins rather than actually being electable. i can only think it's because it's much easier than being in power because it's all theoretical.
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Post by gazz on Oct 31, 2020 20:05:45 GMT
[quote timestamp="1604101194" author=" gazz" i still fail to understand the attraction of p**sing about on the principled margins rather than actually being electable. i can only think it's because it's much easier than being in power because it's all theoretical. You're probably right mate, it's too much like hard work!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 22:01:29 GMT
be there as a lesson to any potential Labour leader yes, but also, all the f***ing idiots on the left of the party who are kicking off at the moment. i still fail to understand the attraction of p**sing about on the principled margins rather than actually being electable. i can only think it's because it's much easier than being in power because it's all theoretical. Having recently re-joined the party and had to listen to some of them it is precisely that. Government is largely the management of compromise and these people aren't prepared to compromise on anything. Curiously when you ask them which socialist government they have most admired they almost exclusively look abroad, primarily to those in central and south america. The further to the left they are the more distanced from reality they are.
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Post by gazz on Nov 1, 2020 0:59:33 GMT
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Post by dudleyhatter on Nov 1, 2020 9:39:11 GMT
An mp who agrees
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Post by ceefer on Nov 5, 2020 17:28:25 GMT
Bozo asked at the press briefing why football cant take place and as per usual totally avoided answering the question.
Don't come on and waste our time!!!!
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