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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Aug 20, 2020 19:09:17 GMT
And it was inexcusable that Doris couldn't even be bothered to appear, holiday in Scotland or not, BUT LETS FACE IT WHAT ELSE WOULD WE EXPECT FROM HIM. now be fair ceef. what we would have expected from him was to have holidayed in scotland during the middle of lockdown, blathered some spurious excuse, and met Big Dom/the Domster at barnard castle on the way up to boot.
here, simply hiding as far north as he can without having to enter quarantine on the way back in, is quite restrained.
i still fear that the voters won't eventually have their revenge, but then i have to remember that the opposition next time won't be the socialist bogeyman for the public, fatally holing itself below the waterline by failing not to hate the jewish population, and many etceteras. as much the tories are f***ing it up but loudly saying they aren't in plummy accents, i'm still angry at corbyn and the whole set of momentum c***s who allowed boris such an easy run.
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Post by gazz on Aug 20, 2020 19:23:35 GMT
as much the tories are f***ing it up but loudly saying they aren't in plummy accents, i'm still angry at corbyn and the whole set of momentum c***s who allowed boris such an easy run. THIS ↑↑↑↑
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 20:25:03 GMT
To draw a footballing parallel... it’s like Sterling skying it from 5 yards out. As much of an open goal as you can get in an election.
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Post by ceefer on Aug 21, 2020 11:27:01 GMT
And it was inexcusable that Doris couldn't even be bothered to appear, holiday in Scotland or not, BUT LETS FACE IT WHAT ELSE WOULD WE EXPECT FROM HIM. now be fair ceef. what we would have expected from him was to have holidayed in scotland during the middle of lockdown, blathered some spurious excuse, and met Big Dom/the Domster at barnard castle on the way up to boot.
here, simply hiding as far north as he can without having to enter quarantine on the way back in, is quite restrained.
i still fear that the voters won't eventually have their revenge, but then i have to remember that the opposition next time won't be the socialist bogeyman for the public, fatally holing itself below the waterline by failing not to hate the jewish population, and many etceteras. as much the tories are f***ing it up but loudly saying they aren't in plummy accents, i'm still angry at corbyn and the whole set of momentum c***s who allowed boris such an easy run.
This made me laugh....
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Post by archie on Aug 21, 2020 13:06:30 GMT
To draw a footballing parallel... it’s like Sterling skying it from 5 yards out. As much of an open goal as you can get in an election. Actually, in terms of slipping up when all you had to do to was keep your head, it was more like Gerrard in 2014.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Aug 21, 2020 20:37:15 GMT
to be fair archie, THAT was about keeping your feet...
home from europe are we?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 8:24:27 GMT
Corbyn was a largely obscure back-bench MP whose political achievements during a long career in parliament amounts to the thick end of sod all despite the fact that his party had been in power for 11 of those years. His chief claim to fame is having voted against his own party in excess of 400 times (I can't remember the exact figure) and he's second only to McDonnell in that respect.
Uniting the party behind him was always going to be a challenge for a man with a reputation for ploughing his own furrow and his failure to do that was his biggest, along with failing to manage charges of anti-semitism within the party, surrounding himself with some who are considered political extremists didn't help.
His willingness to go his own way extended to his period as leader. For example, having agreed a position to support the HS2 rail link with the shadow cabinet he went public saying the party could withdraw support or water it down and of course famously he was on his hind legs demanding article 50 be triggered after the results of the non-binding advisory only referendum on EU membership in isolation from the rest of the party.
To be fair to Corbyn, the Tories under Johnson won 43.3% of the vote in 2019 and won a landslide. The Tories under May won 42.2% of the vote and barely had a majority. Labour lost 24 seats to the Tories for the first time in 60 years in areas of the country which are strongly pro-Brexit. The probable reason for a Tory landslide is an archaic first past the post electoral system which is no longer fit for purpose.
It is of course interesting to note the similarities between the problems of the Labour Party and those of the Tories. Baroness Warsi, a Muslim peer has described membership of the Tories as like being involved in an abusive relationship due to rampant racist, anti-Muslim attitudes within the party. The party announced an investigation into it but a few weeks ago Johnson, himself a man given to casual racism, quietly announced that it had been dropped. Where was the fuss from the press? There wasn't one.
Corbyn stands accused of being prepared to squander vast amounts of public money on vanity projects which may or may not be true but where is the fuss about the money handed to private businesses for the failed delivery of public services handed to them without competitive tender. On track and trace alone, that bill amounts to £200 million! Much of this money has been given to Serco, a business with a lengthening record of failure to deliver. Let's not even begin to look at the money wasted by Duncan-Smith or Grayling to name but two on the Tories pet vanity projects, none of which comes under scrutiny from the right-wing press.
The Labour Party is regularly accused by the Tories of corrupting the political process because it is funded by Trades Unions. If anyone wants to know what corruption really looks like take a look at how the Tories are funded and by whom. Then take a look at the rewards handed to those who do fund them. You need look little further than the last round of life peerages and awards given out by Johnson and all done in full view of an uncritical and adoring right-wing press and if you want to know what failing upwards means look no further than the career of Dido Harding.
I guess time will tell but for those who even now are suggesting that Starmer isn't up to it because the Tories still lead in the polls I would suggest that they stfu to be honest. The Labour Party could have 100% support in the polls and it would make precisely no difference. Any announcement on the date of the next election is still 4 years away.
Starmer is clearly playing a long game. Good for him. Let the Tories reap what they sow on Brexit, particularly as it's now becoming clear that they're aiming for a "no-deal" Brexit. Lets see how it looks to its supporters from a dole queue because for a country who's national debt has just topped £2 trillion for the first time and please note, vastly more than anything any Labour Party has accrued, the Tories economic choices are becoming somewhat limited.
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Post by gazz on Aug 22, 2020 8:32:39 GMT
Another brilliant post, Yorks.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Aug 29, 2020 14:40:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 15:31:07 GMT
"Despite all its levels and dimensions, this game has just one rule and allows for just one winner. It dictates that the United Kingdom, and its people, currently exist for one purpose and one purpose alone – and that is to serve the ego of Boris Johnson. This is the mutant algorithm. The rest is noise".
And when it finally dawns on the electorate that they've been had, the Tories will replace him. It's one of the differences between the Tories and Labour. It's all about power for its own sake for the Tories and they'll get behind anyone who can deliver it and it matters not whether the individual who can deliver it is incompetent, a liar, a narcissist, misogynist or given to casual racism. In 2019 it was Johnson or rather, it was the carefully cultivated image of jovial bluster that has led to so many unnecessary deaths and the fact that months after schools closed down this useless shower of sh*t currently masquerading as our Government wait until the Friday before they're due to reopen to finally publish a long list of recommendations for doing it safely. None of it matters not to the Tories nor, seemingly does it matter to the electorate, to the point that the Guardian is reporting this morning that there are a number of organisations lining up Fox News style opinionated "news" reporting in competition with the BBC. If the author of the article thinks politics looks ugly now, if we're to head down the same route as the US then it will get considerably worse.
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Post by gazz on Aug 29, 2020 15:41:21 GMT
"He isn’t on the job in any meaningful way even when he shows up to the meetings. He’s there to do a different job: not to be Prime Minister but to be Boris Johnson."Utterly brilliant. Maccy - thanks for posting!
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Post by gazz on Aug 29, 2020 15:43:15 GMT
It's all about power for its own sake for the Tories and they'll get behind anyone who can deliver it and it matters not whether the individual who can deliver it is incompetent, a liar, a narcissist, misogynist or given to casual racism.
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Post by ceefer on Sept 8, 2020 17:16:57 GMT
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Post by gazz on Sept 8, 2020 19:03:02 GMT
I only needed to read the part that mentioned the "NHS markets" in that article to make me feel physically sick.
Market? It's a f***ing public service that our taxes pay for.
f*** off, Trump, and keep your grubby little pu**y grabbing hands off our health service.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 21:25:15 GMT
I can’t even listen or read about anything political anymore - this country makes me sick.
I used to be politically engaged. I studied politics at A Level just because it was something that interested me. Now I am totally disenfranchised.
I couldn’t even bring myself to vote for either side in the last election. As far as I am concerned, I voted in 2016. We have made our bed now and we can f***ing lie in it.
I wish the inevitable hardships to come would fall specifically on the “52%” but unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. I am still angry, still bitter about it and refuse to have a modicum of sympathy for anyone that voted leave when the inevitable s*** hits the fan.
Proud to be European. Disgusted and ashamed to be English/British. If it wasn’t for the fact my family and career was in this country I would leave this s*** hole.
Apologies for the rant but had to vent!
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