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Post by collingecounty on Jul 30, 2020 21:22:36 GMT
No problem as folks live in Cheshire!
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Post by gazz on Jul 31, 2020 8:52:05 GMT
There's a time and a place for that, mate and this isn't it.
This is putting a stop to me visiting my family and my kids again for the foreseeable future, so being called a Manc is way down my list of things I give a sh*t about right now.
Then there's my stepdad's mother, who is nearly 90 and has dementia and is now going to be locked down in her care home yet again not knowing what the f*** she's done wrong (she genuinely feels she's being punished for something), just a week or so after being allowed to see her family in person for the first time in months, rather than through the net curtain in her bedroom f***ing window.
Nah, mate, it ain't the time.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Jul 31, 2020 11:01:44 GMT
Utterly crazy that we were given around a fortnight to get used to the straightforward requirement for wearing a face covering in shops, while there was little more than two hours' notice last night for this ham-fisted development - with all the ramifications that it has for people's lives. A new, contemptuous low for this government - and that's saying something.
We are outside the affected areas (for now), but thoughts are with all fellow Heaveners and their families who are having to deal more directly with this latest piece of on-the-hoof mismanagement.
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Post by collingecounty on Jul 31, 2020 20:01:55 GMT
Dear Gaza And anybody Sorry if any offence caused
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Post by collingecounty on Jul 31, 2020 20:02:18 GMT
Sorry, Gazz.
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Post by collingecounty on Jul 31, 2020 20:14:23 GMT
On a serious matter, is Poynton excluded? Isn't it 'officially ' classes as Cheshire? I have a sister there, one in Stockport (as well as one of my brothers).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 20:38:22 GMT
There's a time and a place for that, mate and this isn't it. This is putting a stop to me visiting my family and my kids again for the foreseeable future, so being called a Manc is way down my list of things I give a sh*t about right now. Then there's my stepdad's mother, who is nearly 90 and has dementia and is now going to be locked down in her care home yet again not knowing what the f*** she's done wrong (she genuinely feels she's being punished for something), just a week or so after being allowed to see her family in person for the first time in months, rather than through the net curtain in her bedroom f***ing window. Nah, mate, it ain't the time. Ditto mate. Was planning to visit my son although technically I could....and take him to the pub....or a restaurant....but not sit in his house. The utter incoherence of this Government's "policy" beggars belief and it's being aped at work where suddenly only one person at time is allowed into the toilet. This, after 4 months during which it hasn't been a problem and the f**kwit masquerading as our health and safety manager has decided to interpret the Govt policy as restricting use of 3 toilet facilities amongst a staff of 140+ people to one at a time. I suggested that if she's not prepared to hire some additional facilities I'll happily take a p**s in the garden which went down like a lead balloon but what can you expect when the advice looks like it's been drawn up by a bunch of retarded chimps?
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Post by gazz on Jul 31, 2020 21:19:53 GMT
There's a time and a place for that, mate and this isn't it. This is putting a stop to me visiting my family and my kids again for the foreseeable future, so being called a Manc is way down my list of things I give a sh*t about right now. Then there's my stepdad's mother, who is nearly 90 and has dementia and is now going to be locked down in her care home yet again not knowing what the f*** she's done wrong (she genuinely feels she's being punished for something), just a week or so after being allowed to see her family in person for the first time in months, rather than through the net curtain in her bedroom f***ing window. Nah, mate, it ain't the time. Ditto mate. Was planning to visit my son although technically I could....and take him to the pub....or a restaurant....but not sit in his house. The utter incoherence of this Government's "policy" beggars belief and it's being aped at work where suddenly only one person at time is allowed into the toilet. This, after 4 months during which it hasn't been a problem and the f**kwit masquerading as our health and safety manager has decided to interpret the Govt policy as restricting use of 3 toilet facilities amongst a staff of 140+ people to one at a time. I suggested that if she's not prepared to hire some additional facilities I'll happily take a p**s in the garden which went down like a lead balloon but what can you expect when the advice looks like it's been drawn up by a bunch of retarded chimps? When.... IF this blows over, there should be criminal proceedings brought against this phoney government, because all they've done during this pandemic is cost lives. Any lives saved by the amazing staff in our NHS hospitals have been saved in spite of this government, not because of them.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Jul 31, 2020 22:31:31 GMT
On a serious matter, is Poynton excluded? Isn't it 'officially ' classes as Cheshire? I have a sister there, one in Stockport (as well as one of my brothers). Pretty sure that Poynton is outside of the restricted area, matey.
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Post by gazz on Jul 31, 2020 22:46:13 GMT
So am I, mate. I've only just got used to being able to travel home for a distance visit with my family and my two boys, but having it taken away from me again is a real gut punch, I was just feeling a little raw when I read your post, mate. Not for the first time, maybe I should have been a little more diplomatic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 9:10:47 GMT
So am I, mate. I've only just got used to being able to travel home for a distance visit with my family and my two boys, but having it taken away from me again is a real gut punch, I was just feeling a little raw when I read your post, mate. Not for the first time, maybe I should have been a little more diplomatic. You're entitled to your anger mate, we all are. Test and trace is key to allowing a sense of normality to return to this country and despite the lies that the Government continue to peddle about its world-beating quality it remains what it's always been haphazard, incompetently run and a vehicle for the transfer of vast amounts of public money into the back pockets of the shareholders and owners of private businesses with very obvious links to the Tory party. Because so much of it is not part of the NHS, and therefore not part of a nationally planned delivery there are gaps in its coverage, the businesses involved don't want to share the information they get with the bodies trying to deliver local health services. Serco for example are already guilty of serious data breaches, shoddy on-line administration and inadequate training of staff. Despite the fact that these are charges that have been consistently levelled at the business the political zealotry that infects the contemporary Tory Party is such that they continue to shovel nearly £46 million in Serco's direction for test and trace services despite the same business having been recently fined £1 million for the failure to deliver on other contracts it's been awarded. SAGE advise that in order to get the virus under control something in the region of 80% of close contacts with infected people have to be identified. According to leaked figures, in Blackburn where they have a particularly high number of cases the figure is about 50%. It isn't working, and Hancock does nothing other than spout vacuous platitudes whilst Johnson utters nothing other than mono-syllabic 3 word slogans bordering on the moronic. So yeah, be angry mate and stay angry because the Tory Party has the deaths of a significant number of people on it's hands, it has the impaired health of more on its hands and it has the the future deaths of even more people on its hands. People who were not able to get the vital treatment they needed for non-covid related illnesses because the only way that the NHS, cut back after 10 years of unnecessarily brutal Tory austerity could cope, was by not treating anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 10:24:55 GMT
As a further point, it's also worth noting out that the CEO of the part of Serco responsible for providing Govt services is one Rupert Soames OBE who, if for no other reason, is qualified by reason of his Eton/Oxford education. Don't make me laugh, a degree in Politics Philosophy and Economics should bar anyone from public life, irrespective of where it came from! Of course, having been at Oxford he is also a former member of the Bullingdon Club, an organisation whose membership have a reputation for smashing restaurants up and burning £50 notes in front of homeless people, so a proper charmer.
Oh! One shouldn't forget that he is also brother of former Tory MP Sir Nicholas (my word, don't the Tories and their voters like a mi'lord) and a grandson of Winston Churchill. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but the good voters of places like Workington who recently transferred their allegiance to the Tory Party did so in order to "get Brexit done". One of the reasons they wanted to "get Brexit done" (you can't beat a good 3 word slogan, so good I said it twice) was because they were sick of "the elites" running their lives. Sorry, beyond pointing out that satire is completely dead I have nothing further to add.
Lastly, it seems that even dear old Matty Hancock, brown-nosing, snivelling Matty has finally realised that all is not well with test and trace. What better solution then than employ the NHS, you know, an organisation with the specialist skills, to investigate, advise, etc, etc? Well, peasant, you'd be wrong! He's picked the privately owned management consultancy McKinsey, a business currently making a monumental balls of similar operations handed to it without competitive tender in the US! How obvious is that!?
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Post by ceefer on Aug 1, 2020 11:24:12 GMT
As a further point, it's also worth noting out that the CEO of the part of Serco responsible for providing Govt services is one Rupert Soames OBE who, if for no other reason, is qualified by reason of his Eton/Oxford education. Don't make me laugh, a degree in Politics Philosophy and Economics should bar anyone from public life, irrespective of where it came from! Of course, having been at Oxford he is also a former member of the Bullingdon Club, an organisation whose membership have a reputation for smashing restaurants up and burning £50 notes in front of homeless people, so a proper charmer. Oh! One shouldn't forget that he is also brother of former Tory MP Sir Nicholas (my word, don't the Tories and their voters like a mi'lord) and a grandson of Winston Churchill. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but the good voters of places like Workington who recently transferred their allegiance to the Tory Party did so in order to "get Brexit done". One of the reasons they wanted to "get Brexit done" (you can't beat a good 3 word slogan, so good I said it twice) was because they were sick of "the elites" running their lives. Sorry, beyond pointing out that satire is completely dead I have nothing further to add. Lastly, it seems that even dear old Matty Hancock, brown-nosing, snivelling Matty has finally realised that all is not well with test and trace. What better solution then than employ the NHS, you know, an organisation with the specialist skills, to investigate, advise, etc, etc? Well, peasant, you'd be wrong! He's picked the privately owned management consultancy McKinsey, a business currently making a monumental balls of similar operations handed to it without competitive tender in the US! How obvious is that!? I have real worries for the future if the NHS with this lot in charge. People all over the country need to wake up and realise that it is in its current form endangered. Those in charge say one thing and do the opposite and it seems the press mostly turn a blind eye. Very worrying that we seem to be on a par with the US with the state of our politics and the trust in our politicians is rock bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 11:43:13 GMT
As a further point, it's also worth noting out that the CEO of the part of Serco responsible for providing Govt services is one Rupert Soames OBE who, if for no other reason, is qualified by reason of his Eton/Oxford education. Don't make me laugh, a degree in Politics Philosophy and Economics should bar anyone from public life, irrespective of where it came from! Of course, having been at Oxford he is also a former member of the Bullingdon Club, an organisation whose membership have a reputation for smashing restaurants up and burning £50 notes in front of homeless people, so a proper charmer. Oh! One shouldn't forget that he is also brother of former Tory MP Sir Nicholas (my word, don't the Tories and their voters like a mi'lord) and a grandson of Winston Churchill. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but the good voters of places like Workington who recently transferred their allegiance to the Tory Party did so in order to "get Brexit done". One of the reasons they wanted to "get Brexit done" (you can't beat a good 3 word slogan, so good I said it twice) was because they were sick of "the elites" running their lives. Sorry, beyond pointing out that satire is completely dead I have nothing further to add. Lastly, it seems that even dear old Matty Hancock, brown-nosing, snivelling Matty has finally realised that all is not well with test and trace. What better solution then than employ the NHS, you know, an organisation with the specialist skills, to investigate, advise, etc, etc? Well, peasant, you'd be wrong! He's picked the privately owned management consultancy McKinsey, a business currently making a monumental balls of similar operations handed to it without competitive tender in the US! How obvious is that!? I have real worries for the future if the NHS with this lot in charge. People all over the country need to wake up and realise that it is in its current form endangered. Those in charge say one thing and do the opposite and it seems the press mostly turn a blind eye. Very worrying that we seem to be on a par with the US with the state of our politics and the trust in our politicians is rock bottom. You should be. Without going into tedious detail, the privatisation of the NHS has been continuing apace for years and shamefully, since the Labour Party brought about its inception, by the Party of Blair and Brown whose creative accounting allowed the development of PFI. The central goal of financing it to provide what's needed no longer exists because it's impossible. The idea of a unified provider has been replaced with layers of profit opportunities for over 500 bodies with an interest in creaming it off the top. I've read one piece that states quite bluntly that we're not a million miles from a US style medicare and that to fund it we'll need to insure ourselves. Best of luck with that if you've got a pre-existing condition, or one that requires expensive treatment and therefore falls under exemptions described in the small print or you lose your job and can't pay for it.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Aug 1, 2020 13:38:50 GMT
Don't make me laugh, a degree in Politics Philosophy and Economics should bar anyone from public life a decent plan for sourcing PPE was needed at the start of this crisis, but as a degree admittedly not particularly helpful.
how come northern ireland's (a country of three men, a dog, and one landline) covid tracking app is now available? weren't we getting a 'world-beating' tracking and tracing system some weeks ago? or did i just dream it, like the rest of this mishandled f***ing nightmare?
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