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Post by dudleyhatter on Mar 24, 2020 18:05:00 GMT
Hmmm
What I don’t understand is that yesterday the stats said the UK had 15 seriously ill with COVID19 and today it says 20. But 87 people died in the same period. Am I missing something here?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 19:02:16 GMT
A fairly tense day at work today. The school where the head died 3 days after diagnosis is local to work and a number of my colleagues have kids and grandkids who attend. There's a lot of people feeing the strain to the point where one of the supervisors keeled over about 9 o clock. An hour or so later one of the people working for her made some flippant remark and it kicked off between her and the woman working next to her. Idiot here was stood next to them when it erupted and had to step in. There's a lot of people worried that their health is secondary to the business turning a few bob however...
The business I work for is privately owned and although it has a turnover in excess of £10 million it doesn't have the cash to protect it from prolonged closure. It has to sell product or it will close permanently.
Many airlines run on small margins (including many of the larger ones) as a consequence of the demand for cheaper and cheaper flights so this will inevitably have a knock on effect and a number will go bust as a result of this. Fewer customers, fewer sales, fewer sales translates into an inability to cover costs and the doors close permanently. Add to this, Brexit.
No rational investigation into the consequences of Brexit has concluded anything else other than that the economy will shrink. How can it do anything else when the f***ing clowns running the country seem hell bent on dumping us out with no deal is anyone's guess. If anyone tells you that we'll happily trade on WTO terms call them out as either dishonest or pig ignorant. There is no longer any such thing since Trump refused to sanction the arbitration scheme whereby trade disputes are settled by independent arbiters. In effect it's like saying we've got loads of laws, just no police or law courts to enforce them! The only thing that economists can't predict is the scale of the damage to the economy
The nett result is that given the present unplanned sh*tshow and the increasing prospect of worldwide recession that may follow plus the planned sh*tshow of Brexit, prospects for British manufacturing look a bit grim right now and businesses like mine have to stay open, have to keep making and selling stuff because if they don't they'll close.
Whilst I cannot stomach the cretin that runs Wetherspoons and have already stopped frequenting his pubs on account of his stance on Brexit, he has a point. No 10, to wit the ineffable Johnson who is currently giving a masterclass in incompetent, blustering, made-up-on-the hoof f**kwittery announced that the Govt would be paying 80% of the wages of business that closed as a result of coronavirus.
Fanf***ingtastic. Furloughing as it's called is a new concept in this country. It has no status in law and the Govt couldn't be arsed doing the legwork required to define it, explain it, explain how businesses would claim it, pay it, etc before Alexander Boris De pfeffel Johnson, a man who, it's alleged, "tells it how it is" thought it good enough to announce to an expectant country. No folks! He doesn't tell it how it is, he's a shallow, self-regarding snake oil salesman and if you voted for him or his party you've been dragged up the garden path and lied to.
As reported in the Guardian yesterday, it's now known that the reason a lockdown was only introduced as recently as yesterday is because tw## Johnson, man of the people refused to countenance it because it offended his libertarian political views. In other words, people are dying, even as I write this, because this repellent creature put political zealotry ahead of the interests of the people of this country. The b*st*rd should be facing a f***ing court of law!
Apologies, I've had a seriously sh*t day today, on top of which I learned this afternoon that my mates wife has been diagnosed with it and needed to get that off my chest.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on Mar 24, 2020 19:23:23 GMT
Glad you got that of your chest NYE.
I agree with everything you say here.
I knew the Head who died, she had attended a couple of courses that I ran some years ago. A great lady who put her children first. Very sad news.
You take care and best wishes to your mate and his wife.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 20:54:26 GMT
Glad you got that of your chest NYE. I agree with everything you say here. I knew the Head who died, she had attended a couple of courses that I ran some years ago. A great lady who put her children first. Very sad news. You take care and best wishes to your mate and his wife. Just had him back on the phone, she's been admitted to hospital. He's a similar age to me, his wife of two years is 15 years younger than him with two sons, 11 and 13. He was recovering from a cataract op 3 months ago when his employer for whom he'd worked only 6 or 7 months wrote to him terminating his employment, he's terrified. And I think I've had a sh*t day.
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Post by gazz on Mar 24, 2020 21:20:21 GMT
Apologies, I've had a seriously sh*t day today, on top of which I learned this afternoon that my mates wife has been diagnosed with it and needed to get that off my chest. Please don't apologise, mate, that's what this thread is for. We're all here for each other, so don't ever feel like you have to apologise. Just had him back on the phone, she's been admitted to hospital. He's a similar age to me, his wife of two years is 15 years younger than him with two sons, 11 and 13. He was recovering from a cataract op 3 months ago when his employer for whom he'd worked only 6 or 7 months wrote to him terminating his employment, he's terrified. And I think I've had a sh*t day. That's absolutely terrible, Yorks, hopefully she can pull through this. My thoughts are with them, so please keep us updated, mate. If you don't mind me asking, how old is she and does she have any other health issues? I just think this information needs to be out there, as the idiots out jogging who say "I'm not ill" need to realise that this is getting closer to them than they think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 5:58:54 GMT
The view is that she contracted it via work where irony of ironies they had the occupational health people were in last week to discuss peoples worries etc about it. It seems one of them may have had it and passed it on. She's in her early 40's and a smoker so that's not likely to help.
And then we read that this country has opted out of the EU bulk buying scheme. You couldn't make this sh*t up. At a tome like this the Govt has made a conscious decision not to involve itself when there's still a shortage of the correct protective gear for front line workers and the Tories are still playing politics.
This is real simple. If I'm a manufacturer/distributor of this stuff and the EU pitches up wanting to buy say 100 000 items a week I'll offer discount and a very competitive delivery date. Britain, how many to you want? Only 10 000 a week? You get the picture. It takes a special kind of idiot to make a decision like this. What are they afraid of? That people might go oh sh*t! What have we done, can we change our mind?
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Post by gazz on Mar 25, 2020 7:27:25 GMT
Good grief, mate, that's terrible. We'll all be keeping everything crossed for her.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on Mar 25, 2020 9:26:09 GMT
We share your grief here. It doesn't seem right "liking" a post so apologies if it looks like they are being ignored.
They are not. It is better we vent our spleen on here rather than at our children, partners, family or just anyone person we come across.
With 170K volunteers for NHS support we are perhaps seeing the better side of this crisis coming to the fore.
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Post by dudleyhatter on Mar 25, 2020 10:17:34 GMT
I agree with Len, liking seems wrong so I think for the purposes of this thread a like should also mean I’m thinking of you, or good luck or that’s awful or simply an acknowledgement of what has been posted. Stay safe and calm everyone.
County Heaven is always going to be, as Len says, a safe place to vent your spleen if needed.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Mar 25, 2020 10:36:33 GMT
Spot on, Duds and Lennie. And duly liked (x2)!
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Post by archie on Mar 25, 2020 11:47:36 GMT
Thanks for the thoughts and messages. Reciprocal thoughts for ars' Dad and NYE's friend and his wife.
The bad news is also, perversely, the good news. My brother is back on antibiotics as the chest infection has not cleared up completely. He also had a blood transfusion but a low blood count is normal at this stage of the chemo cycle and he was brighter last night than he'd been on Sunday. All this means that the discharge is on hold (that's the good news) and he's in the best place at the moment.
I get the impression that visiting might be shut down completely fairly soon. Hopefully there will be some warning.
Keep safe everyone.
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Post by archie on Mar 25, 2020 11:53:53 GMT
A very minor whinge but why is one excursion outside for 90 minutes better than 40 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the afternoon? Dog walkers around the country will understand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 12:34:07 GMT
We share your grief here. It doesn't seem right "liking" a post so apologies if it looks like they are being ignored. They are not. It is better we vent our spleen on here rather than at our children, partners, family or just anyone person we come across. With 170K volunteers for NHS support we are perhaps seeing the better side of this crisis coming to the fore. From a personal point of view, and at the risk of sounding really cynical, it's not grief I feel. You only have to scrape the remains of one suicide from the front of a train and death loses its mystery, believe me.
What I feel is anger. Anger that it has taken a major world crisis for the political ideology that imposed austerity on millions in this country to be so easily exposed as the bullshit that it clearly is. An ideology that puts tax cuts ahead of the prosperity of vast swathes of the country, an ideology that has meant that food banks can remain open because access to them has been identified by government as critical to so many.
As one of the biggest and most prosperous economies in the world it turns out that the money can be found when there's a political will to find it, a political will that has been notably absent since Thatcher got into her malignant stride and which now inevitably manifests itself in the mob of nutjobs currently masquerading as serious politicians within the Tory Party. Having filleted public services so thoroughly since 2010, I'm fascinated to know how they're going to foist the cost of this onto the those at the bottom of the heap.
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Post by gazz on Mar 25, 2020 12:55:11 GMT
We share your grief here. It doesn't seem right "liking" a post so apologies if it looks like they are being ignored. They are not. It is better we vent our spleen on here rather than at our children, partners, family or just anyone person we come across. With 170K volunteers for NHS support we are perhaps seeing the better side of this crisis coming to the fore. I agree with Len, liking seems wrong so I think for the purposes of this thread a like should also mean I’m thinking of you, or good luck or that’s awful or simply an acknowledgement of what has been posted. Stay safe and calm everyone. County Heaven is always going to be, as Len says, a safe place to vent your spleen if needed. As one of the biggest and most prosperous economies in the world it turns out that the money can be found when there's a political will to find it and - I have been saying exactly the same to a few mates. There's more than one lesson to be learned from this worldwide emergency.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Mar 25, 2020 15:37:43 GMT
Astonishingly. people are STILL not doing as they ought - with scenes from the weekend being repeated today in the Peak District... #stayhome
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