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Post by hatter_in_macc on Mar 6, 2020 9:29:41 GMT
After a month seemingly dominated by long schleps 'darn sarf', we start this new one back in SK3 with visitors from there!
Post all the usual stuff here...
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Post by countyfan on Mar 6, 2020 12:18:18 GMT
Four points ahead before A ball is kicked gives us the Confidence to go all out attacking. Three goals to two win for County.
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Post by dudleyhatter on Mar 6, 2020 20:20:22 GMT
Delightful image! Cheers Gazz
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Mar 6, 2020 22:12:05 GMT
see the thing about that gazz, no matter how grim it may be, is that i still can't help focussing on his mahoosive forehead as the most startling thing in the picture...he's got a head like a
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Post by hermannsays on Mar 7, 2020 13:30:59 GMT
The game is played on grass and not paper but, hey, let's see how reality matches up to what paper might suggest today:
Barnet have lost only one league loss since the end of November but we come into today on the back of a mini-run of 2 wins and 2 draws. Both sides have seen a trend of scoring fewer goals per game of late (last 8 compared to season overall) and fewer concessions per game. That might give off the '2 teams in playoff contention mode' feeling and does prepare us for a tight match. That said, there seems to be an openness statistically to Barnet's first halves when away from home - 75% of their concessions and 60% of their goals are before the break. Let's hope we can capitalise on that.
Looking forward to this one - we'll be missing the odd player by the sounds of it but I think it'll be good indicator of things. Barnet played Tuesday and got a home draw against Boreham Wood. They have up to 4 games in hand on sides in the playoffs and are only 4 points off them. They should certainly be in the mix. Let's show we will be too!
Good luck to JG and the boys!
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Post by hermannsays on Mar 7, 2020 20:13:07 GMT
Today JG opted for the 3-4-1-2 shape, possibly to 'match up' with our opponent or, perhaps equally likely, to try to find structural integrity and balance, and to relieve Lloyd of the defensive work required of the wide attackers in the more favoured 4-2-3-1 shape we often deploy.
As such, there was an element of the post-January 2016-17 season about the game, when we would see Lloyd often more central with Big K. Perhaps it's therefore not as likely to see him destroying defences in this position, or for him to bring us quite the excitement he did when playing the left attacker role in a 4-2-3-1, but it's the business end of the season and I think JG is probably trusting that if that one chance comes, he'll bury it.
Away from the shape, Bell got the nod over McAlinden. Their #5 could see over the Railway End and was powerfully built to boot. With our #9 being expected to come back into our own box on set-pieces to defend him, I think that's what you call doing your homework. (As an aside, it continues to disappoint as to just how many people openly jump on every little error Bell makes while others MUCH more experienced play worse and get zilch. It was pleasing in the second half to see JG applaud him for his work, I think he needed it to be honest because he must sense the reaction to him on the pitch.)
Dimaio started ahead of Osborne in the #10 role, Keane's absence saw Turnbull in central midfield with Sam Walker, and Jackson started left wing back ahead of Clarke. Jackson struggled early in the season at LWB but, with games, looked good in the left attacker role in the 4-2-3-1 so I thought it would be interesting to see how he got on when asked to revert to LWB once again.
With us doing better from set-pieces of late, another point of interest would be where they would actually come from. With the highest lines (Bell, Lloyd and Dimaio) largely being narrow, the natural width needed to come from Minihan and Jackson imposing themselves high, or from Bell and Lloyd making width from central areas. When it's the latter, I think you can often benefit with a bit of a ruthless Warburton type finisher at #10... which we don't have. (That said, Dimaio was one of the few players in the first half who had clearly refused to take one of the panic pills being passed around prior to kick-off. He went about his game effectively and was unlucky to suffer a dead leg which saw his game brought to a premature end.)
But forget players and shape. You have to come out for the fight. It's not optional. And too many of ours didn't. We were second to the first ball, the second ball... you get the idea. We dropped and dropped and still didn't pressure within our half. We looked disorganised. And when we did have it, we looked scared to death to play like we can. Instead of passing out to Minihan and Jackson to get some width and progression up the pitch, or to try to find Dimaio on the half turn, we played either backwards football or hit and 'hope Danny can get onto it' football. Meanwhile, Barnet passed the ball to each other and, you know, moved afterwards. They worked up the pitch as a team in an organised fashion.
Oh right, I've written all this and we're apparently not even in the 8th minute when they took the lead. Please bear with me for just another 40 minutes.
So the lead was taken by Barnet, albeit in circumstances which, as it happened, felt dubious. We were back on our 18-yard line, not pressing very well and they slipped a ball down the left side of our central defence. Their fella seemed yards ahead of our back line within the penalty area so no idea what went wrong (defender malfunction, lino malfunction?). Hinchliffe was down to his feet near the corner of the 6-yard box, Cowan was trying to get back to make a challenge too. Their man went down in the threesome and the ref blew. (Please read that sentence without smirking) So, offside or not? Foul or not? No idea on both counts but it didn't 'feel' right but could, of course, been right. Their player walked up and Ben dived right while he placed it left.
Bell had one nice piece of play when he isolated their LCB and had lovely body shape when receiving a ball to chest. He cushioned it past the defender and ran him down our right wing. It needed a first time ball as he had comfortably beaten his man and Lloyd was one-one-one in the box - the only two outfielders in the box. But Bell checked back and the moment ultimately dwindled into slow-playing backwards, again a constant theme of the ineffective first half.
Like Bell, Lloyd had a moment or two as well. On one occasion, he was getting to the byline on the left wing when he was very obviously hacked down with the ref five yards behind the yellow card offence... a corner it was apparently as the defender's eight foot toe had prodded the ball away. On another occasion Lloyd left the defender sunbathing after feigning a first time cross. Unfortunately, since our default is to play the first-time ball in, we had committed to it in the box and so the pull back to the penalty spot was met by... no-one. "Where is everyone, that's a great ball!" Except, not so much when no-one else plays for that ball.
Aside from Dimaio, our midfield was deep and passive - too many aimless balls or negative balls slowing the game down. Both Palmer and Hogan were also guilty of poor distribution early on. We really failed to get the ball enough to either Minihan or Jackson from defence and central midfield. Hogan also over-committed and left himself stranded, desperately trying to pull back their man in a 'just enough to discomfort you but not to foul you' way, who was heading towards the box.
But one thing that's clear with Hogan is that he's mentally tough, not just physically tough. While others might go in their shell at such an error, not he. No, he just says: "B*gger this, I'm going to be a game-changer." And so he stepped out from RCB, at good pace with the ball. That one action and subsequent cross lifted us. In fact, he provided the two best crosses of the first half. His second was the assist for Palmer's wonderfully controlled header. It was our only attempt on target that half but, if you'll forgive the reference, it was a bit like Bould and Adams combining for Arsenal all those years ago. Two uncompromising individuals putting together a wonderful piece of play. It's possible, because of shooting from the Pop, that highlights won't quite do the header justice. It was REALLY well executed. I absolutely LOVED it and so did they. Cometh the hour, cometh the men's men.
The second half was a very different game to the first. Jackson was pulled and Lloyd went to LWB. McAlinden partnered Bell up top. From a side with too many passive onlookers who might as well have bought tickets to watch the game, we were collectively right at it now. It was as if the switch of 'let's worry about them' had turned to 'let them worry about us'. It seemed such a psychological thing - the shape was the same with the exception of Bell being left forward and not right forward - but the energy was there, the team-play, the spirit. We had turned from the 'We're that County side that match up with Brackley and lose 1-0' into the 'we're the Championship-winning County so see if you can cope with this.' Oh yes, the boys were alive and my bits were tingling. I've not been drinking by the way.
Bell looked like a player who wouldn't now be dominated. He had fire in him. McAlinden was chasing down things more in tandem with him, like an angry two-armed Octopus swatting away defenders to create himself a yard. The tireless Minihan shrunk a bit when he was being barracked by JG for 5 minutes because he didn't bounce a throw-in into McAlinden but, my goodness, aside from when he was distracted by that, he absolutely took the game to them on the right with 30-40 yard carries, putting in a number of fast low balls and winning corners. Bully and Walker, so long as they weren't trying to cope with breaks, looked more 'with it' and controlling matters in midfield. Set pieces were largely good once more, and threatening once more. We all jumped to celebrate Palmer's second... only to find it had somehow made its way into the 'keeper's hands on the ground.
This was a County those kids in the Pop, coming for the first time, could be excited about. When previously their highlight was probably missing out on being served in the queue for refreshments over there, now there were players they were probably making their favourites. Yes, as I always say, it is unlikely that a team will dominate you in both halves - things should get better. But it was really rather night and day and great credit to everyone for bringing that out of themselves. And when Barnet finally got through at the end, Ben was there to save the day with a diving catch.
And, to be fair to the players, Barnet's attack through the game was one of the more fluid ones you'll see - it would ask questions of sides in higher leagues, I'm sure. For example, in the second half, Minihan was all the way tracking 'his' man to LB at one point, before having to be back to head behind on his natural right post when a cross came in towards the same attacker for them. In another move Cowan was tracking his man into CDM while another of their players had run beyond Turnbull from midfield and Bully was having to drop into LCB to pick him up. There is no criticism on any of them for doing these things, just to point out that today was a good example of the kind of questions you'll be asked in the FL. Concentration and talking = vital attributes.
As I say, no idea on the penalty concession but other than that, Cowan made some pretty crucial interventions. Hogan and Palmer really rolled up their sleeves to impact the game at both ends. Minihan saved a goal and was a big part of the 'lift' the crowd felt, especially second half. Dimaio has put himself in contention for another start, so long as he's fit. McAlinden showed intent and skill, and Bell had a strong second half alongside him. Set-pieces were strong once more. Considering the first half then, lots of things to take comfort in. Add in more questionable decisions against us (we didn't get anything near their box yet seemed to get fouled at least twice) and it was a well-fought point. Both sides could have nicked it but, all in all, neither side probably deserved less than a point from it. I went home happy!
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Post by dudleyhatter on Mar 7, 2020 21:45:37 GMT
Cheers as ever Herm
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Post by gazz on Mar 7, 2020 22:38:56 GMT
Seconded! Superb piece, H!
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Mar 7, 2020 23:10:54 GMT
wow herm! and in contrast...
i always say i wasn't watching and then write a surprisingly long match report. and today i wasn't watching. i was a bit ill in the night, really tired this morning and not wanting to go at all. however, my brother was going so that meant i was too. it also meant that i was chatting about various rubbish rather than watching the game (they played super furry animals' 'something for the weekend' before i got in apparently, but i heard it too when it was repeated at half time...and lots of other irrelevance).
could tell there was going to be a decent crowd again from how far the parked cars had crept up bulkeley street and its tributaries. was quite blowy again, and the flags at the railway end were fluttering madly, if tattily, as they're all falling apart, like they're from ghost pirate ships as i remarked to my brother. the game got underway and nothing happened and then we were one down. i'm assuming from our distant view that their player went over hinchliffe, although cowan was also in close attendance. i hoped their player might miss from his ministry of silly walks run up (quick steps quick steps looooong slow step) but he sidefooted right when hinchliffe went left. the bees' paltry following buzzed happily.
as herm noted, bell, heading forward in front of the pop side twisted his torso back to receive the ball on his chest in a very nice bit of control followed by a burst of pace, but ended up turning back from down the side of their penalty area and playing a 'retaining possession' pass rather than the cross we hoped he might whip in to lloyd. lloyd got clattered on one occasion, the ref pointed for a corner, and their player rather optimistically yapped at him like it was a goal kick (it should have been a free kick). hinchliffe spilled one effort, but not to anywhere dangerous, and that was mostly it until palmer met a corner with his head just as we were slipping into injury time. i thought it was going just wide. my calibration was off, but palmer's wasn't as it took an age to nestle just inside the right hand post. not a bad time to score...
pretty dreadful half though, with very little coherence from county. and then we were shooting towards the distant cheadle end (from our position, anyway). therefore i can only say that we looked to have a good penalty shout with the ref right on hand, but he waved it away. during the half we clipped the bar from a palmer header, and then started celebrating when another palmer header came off the inside of the left hand post and in.......to their keeper's arms, although we hadn't seen that last bit initially and were busy enjoying ourselves. there were too few barnet fans to give a proper "you thought you had scored. you were wrong, you were wrong" fortunately.
bell went for wonder goal of all time, volleying from a long pass. if he'd been fifteen yards further back it would probably have dropped in, but unfortunately it cleared the bar by a dozen feet. the ref seemed particularly poor, and employing the non-league ref's favourite pal, guesswork, to make his decisions. they had a late effort that hinchliffe made a lovely clean diving catch from. and so the points were shared. it was a game. i have little actual opinion about it. as i waited to cross mercian way, i could hear SFA and 'something for the weekend' being played in the ground for the third time in the previous couple of hours. 'kinell ken - give it a rest. you'll wear it out...
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Post by gazz on Mar 7, 2020 23:16:31 GMT
the ref seemed particularly poor, and employing the non-league ref's favourite pal, guesswork, to make his decisions. Excellent stuff as always, mate!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 6:36:27 GMT
That was a strange game. In the first half we seemed set up as though an away team with all too often a back five and, with the midfield playing so deep, frequently a back seven strung out along the edge of the penalty area while Barnet passed the ball amongst themselves without interference from out defenders. Having taken an early lead the game looked like Barnet's for the taking. Bell ploughed a lone furrow up top with little or no support and a late first half equaliser somewhat against the run of play was an unexpected bonus.
We came out with far more purpose in the second half and were the better side and nobody could have complained if Palmer's effort had bounced in off the inside of the post instead of back to the keeper. The fact that our two centre-halves provide the greatest goal threat at the moment, usually from set-pieces is suggestive.
Our best period of the season coincided with Rodney and in particular Walker in the side, two players who could run directly at defenders putting them under severe pressure which forces opponents to defend with greater numbers and depth thereby taking pressure of our own defence. Without that attacking option we look a bit middle of the table, as for that matter, do Barnet.
On the plus side I thought Dimaio showed some nice touches although the way we were set up he was, like Bell, getting very little support. It's no coincidence that in the second half he was able to give us a glimpse of his range of passing and I like the look of McAlinden who has pace and good ball control but all in all I doubt we're good enough to go up this season.
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Post by dudleyhatter on Mar 8, 2020 7:25:19 GMT
I guess this shows for real the difference having a really good striker makes. Someone who makes the defenders do what they want them to and forces them to do things and go to areas of the pitch they’d rather not be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 9:48:57 GMT
I guess this shows for real the difference having a really good striker makes. Someone who makes the defenders do what they want them to and forces them to do things and go to areas of the pitch they’d rather not be. Tbh mate I think Bell has the makings of being a decent striker but even Shearer needed support, needed the ball to be put into the right areas, etc. As Herm pointed out, there's people in the crowd on his back which can do nothing for his confidence but for me the beauty of Walker's play was that he could pick the ball up from deep positions and create something with his ball skills and pace and it needs defence in greater depth to deal with that and if your midfield is preoccupied with dealing with that threat they aren't pressing your own back line quite as much.
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