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Post by forzablue on Dec 9, 2018 0:46:30 GMT
Just watched the post-match video where Jim berates everyone but himself. Same old, same old like a stuck gramophone record stating that the players can't or won't learn from the training ground. Re: my previous posts, do we unluckily have a squad of players who's average IQ is below that of most teams in the division? Are they really so inept at taking on board even the simplest instructions? Or is there another reason? Since JG took over, we have made small strides forward. Thats it. No more than just small strides. For heavens sake we are still in the 6th tier of the football pyramid and in the bottom half to boot. So according to Jim, every squad that HE has put together has the same failing - THEY - THE PLAYERS cannot implement his teachings. Thats so unlucky having so many players with below average intelligence at Stockport County. Maybe we should only scout those with degrees (wait a minute, Warby, Palmer and Minihan do have degrees...). THEN WHAT IS THE REAL REASON? WHEN IS JG GOING TO HOLD HIS HANDS UP AND SAY "I got the team selection wrong or I made the wrong substitutions or I played the wrong formation, etc, etc. "? I honestly think the reason is more obvious than Jim leads us to believe. Because JG is a SCFC legend doesn't make him beyond reproach or beyond being replaced eg Arsene Wenger. When your time is up......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 9:42:44 GMT
I gave it a miss yesterday due to having a cold so can't comment on the game. I could have gone but the real reason is that I've lost faith in Gannon to deliver promotion. According to a recent interview, this is the best squad he's had since his return. So why are we 14 points adrift of Bradford PA at the top? He's got one of the biggest budgets of any club at this level, more than Blyth, Chorley, Bradford, the mighty Leamington...I'd actually take issue with the idea that we've taken small steps forward. His decision to go into the season with a woefully inexperienced forward line who still haven't reached double figures between them is actually a huge step back. That decision has been compounded by the fact that Warburton, who scored 20 last season has been effectively neutered by having to make way for Osbourne to the point where he isn't even guaranteed a start this time round! We've scored 26 league goals, 14 behind Bradford. We've been unable to beat 2 of the bottom 3 at home. Even playing against 10 men has been no obstacle to our mediocrity. In short, I wholeheartedly agree with your final statement. Personally I'm not interested in excuses. Make the best squad you've had since your return to the club play like the best squad you've ever had or, frankly, do one.
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Post by ceefer on Dec 9, 2018 10:14:18 GMT
We did have chances yesterday but failed to put them away. This is the big failing this season and I still think Jim doesnt know his best team selection yet. I would like to see more of Bell and Dimaio.
Tuesday night will be a real test and I hope we dont fall short.
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Post by forzablue on Dec 9, 2018 10:36:08 GMT
When I said we'd made small strides forward I was alluding to our defence, which has the second best record in the division. I agree Northyorksexile, Matty W has been pushed from pillar to post to enable other players to find their mojo - crazy when you have a number 10 who scored 20 last season. Also, am I wrong but wasn't Walker brought in as a playmaker with a cultured left foot? To be fair he's worked his socks off this season but to the detriment of his creativity, so where is Dimaio? He gets 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there if he's lucky. He looked a class act when he came on against Barnet. When we are as bereft of goals as we are now, then why the hell don't we have our most creative player playing every game? Didn't he score 4 from 6 earlier in the season before being 'dropped'?
I don't usually buy into conspiracy theories, but if I didn't know better then JG's tactics and team selections appear to be the best way of ensuring that the club shoots itself in the foot.
The players we have now, which in my mind is a pretty good squad, produce some good performances and results DESPITE JG, not because of JG.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 12:52:40 GMT
When I said we'd made small strides forward I was alluding to our defence, which has the second best record in the division. I agree Northyorksexile, Matty W has been pushed from pillar to post to enable other players to find their mojo - crazy when you have a number 10 who scored 20 last season. Also, am I wrong but wasn't Walker brought in as a playmaker with a cultured left foot? To be fair he's worked his socks off this season but to the detriment of his creativity, so where is Dimaio? He gets 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there if he's lucky. He looked a class act when he came on against Barnet. When we are as bereft of goals as we are now, then why the hell don't we have our most creative player playing every game? Didn't he score 4 from 6 earlier in the season before being 'dropped'? I don't usually buy into conspiracy theories, but if I didn't know better then JG's tactics and team selections appear to be the best way of ensuring that the club shoots itself in the foot. The players we have now, which in my mind is a pretty good squad, produce some good performances and results DESPITE JG, not because of JG. I'm inclined to agree reference Dimaio and yet Thomas, who's about as creative as a lump of lard, a winger who can't take a man on and beat him for either pace or with his ball skills and who rarely puts a cross into a dangerous position is an automatic choice. I fear for them on Tuesday night. Spennymoor are unlikely to score 7 again but even so, if our lacklustre performance at Blyth the other week is anything to go by we could be on the receiving end of a bit of a drubbing.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Dec 9, 2018 13:20:05 GMT
We did have chances yesterday but failed to put them away. This is the big failing this season two big failings - not enough chances created for the possession we have, and not ruthless enough to take them when we get them. chester also had chances and failed to put them away. if both sides had put away their chances, chester would have won by a couple of goals.
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Dec 9, 2018 13:22:54 GMT
agree on thomas - i rarely see him bring anything out of the ordinary. dimaio does have that in his locker, but appears to be a victim of jim's no-risk football. he's become extremely conservative (everyone back for corners) and forgotten the 'reward' part of the risk/reward balance.
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Post by gazz on Dec 9, 2018 15:33:19 GMT
The way this forum can be, sometimes really does baffle me.
We get whole threads dedicated to rubbishing the manager, yet after the board pulled a fast one over promised FA Cup monies, sod all gets said about it - absolutely bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 15:55:42 GMT
The way this forum can be, sometimes really does baffle me. We get whole threads dedicated to rubbishing the manager, yet after the board pulled a fast one over promised FA Cup monies, sod all gets said about it - absolutely bizarre. To be honest mate I'm not interested in whether the board have decided to sit on the cash or not. All I'm commenting on is what I can see and that is, as I've said already, that the Manager has stated this to be the best squad he's had since his return. It's currently sitting in 12th place, 13 points adrift of the leaders! Of the 11 clubs ahead of us a good number are being managed by individuals clearly getting a damn sight more from a lot less than we've got. Additionally, I'd be fascinated to know why Gannon thinks that publicly slagging his players for not listening is going to motivate them to change. If people like me can find a reason for not turning up then I'm fairly sure that applies to others so perhaps the board have decided that they need to protect the cash in the event of gates falling or maybe they've decided to sit on it until they've got a Manager whose judgement they trust. I don't know the answer to that however, I do know that right now we're going nowhere and in my view that is largely down to the Manager.
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Post by gazz on Dec 9, 2018 17:19:14 GMT
To be honest mate I'm not interested in whether the board have decided to sit on the cash or not. You've really surprised me with that comment, mate - because you should be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 18:14:08 GMT
To be honest mate I'm not interested in whether the board have decided to sit on the cash or not. You've really surprised me with that comment, mate - because you should be. I guess they've got good reason so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one
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Post by forzablue on Dec 9, 2018 18:39:10 GMT
Even if Jim were to get the full FA cash and get more bodies in, how long would it be before they were not listening and not following his methods? Maybe the board are keeping some funds which are invariably needed when a club appoints a new manager.
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Post by ceefer on Dec 9, 2018 19:05:12 GMT
agree on thomas - i rarely see him bring anything out of the ordinary. dimaio does have that in his locker, but appears to be a victim of jim's no-risk football. he's become extremely conservative (everyone back for corners) and forgotten the 'reward' part of the risk/reward balance. Just to play devils advocate, Thomas put in a beauty second half and none if the strikers were in poaching mood. Oswell would have buried that. Agree Dimaio needs to get more than 15 mins, its hardly time to warm up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 20:16:33 GMT
agree on thomas - i rarely see him bring anything out of the ordinary. dimaio does have that in his locker, but appears to be a victim of jim's no-risk football. he's become extremely conservative (everyone back for corners) and forgotten the 'reward' part of the risk/reward balance. Just to play devils advocate, Thomas put in a beauty second half and none if the strikers were in poaching mood. Oswell would have buried that. Agree Dimaio needs to get more than 15 mins, its hardly time to warm up There are always exceptions to every rule lol. Seriously though, I've no great issue with a safety first mentality but if that's the way we're going to play then we have to be out of defence very quickly and in numbers and movement has to exceptional. How many times have we seen that this season.? Rarely, if ever. We invariably end up lumping the ball downfield from whence it comes straight back or we reach the half way line and have to stop to pass the ball sideways in order to allow someone to get forward of the ball by which time the defence are back and covering.
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Post by gazz on Dec 9, 2018 20:55:17 GMT
Even if Jim were to get the full FA cash and get more bodies in, how long would it be before they were not listening and not following his methods? Maybe the board are keeping some funds which are invariably needed when a club appoints a new manager. Yes, and we know how well that went last time, don't we. How many more managers are we going to go through and how many more seasons are we going to spend at this level before you start to question the board, or is this just a Jim Gannon 'thing'? I'm not his biggest fan, but Dave Schofield wouldn't risk being sued for libel if there was no truth in this: "Project Salisbury
Posted by Dave - March Org on 8/12/2018, 1:17 pm
Matty asked what I meant earlier when I said we are where we are through choice, which surprised me tbh.
So, sorry for dragging a thread up to the top, but it is important that people understand what I mean by Project Salisbury (Sals-bu-ry for those on Twitter)
Chris Brammall asked me to help bail them out the night before the farcical £100* Season Ticket offer was due to end.
He wanted me to put out a PR campaign to clear that particular catastro#### up, which I was of a mind to do, but only if I understood the plan going forward, to which he said;
(Paraphrased but entirely accurate in content) "We are going to run the Club the same way Salisbury is. Zero cash from Owners, Club to be funded entirely by monies generated by supporters. £275,000 Playing budget next year, Club to settle at whatever level that May be "
I told him I could not support that, and that we are Stockport County not Salisbury.
Anything you are told to the contrary is bullsh*t, that is what said, that is what happened, and that is why we are where we are today.
Project Salisbury.
They are not bad people, it is not personal, they just ####ing terrible Owners, and they need to go before they cause any more harm.
*100 PLUS VAT
Seriously."members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/thread/1544275045.htmlYou really need to look at the bigger picture here, because not only Jim is not responsible for where we are and how we got here, he's also up against that ^^^.
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