Petitions thread

Here's an interesting thought. We all know that private industry is vastly more efficient than public because the Tories tell us that is the case and we all know how trustworthy the average Tory is. The latest poll's suggest that the public thinks Theresa May is decent. Mmm, I suppose if one ignores the hostile environment she pursued whilst Home Secretary in lieu of basic competence, if one ignores the treatment of the Windrush generation who had as much right to be here as I do, if one ignores her support for the largely needless austerity measures and Universal Credit causing untold hardship to millions then yes, she's a thoroughly decent human being. One could almost hope that the God she professes to believe does actually exist because the thought of her having to explain herself at the pearly gates is a very pleasing one however, to the point. 

In order to continue with the façade that all things private, etc, etc is true the Tories have ostensibly privatised the agencies charged storing nuclear waste however, the fact of the matter is that they haven't at all. Not even the average Tory would be dumb enough to trust the private sector to do that properly given the massive costs involved and private industry's propensity for corner cutting to increase profits. It's one of the great lies they spout from time to time. The only reason that nuclear generated electricity is considered to be so cost efficient is that the cost of cleaning up is borne by the public purse. It is not overstating the case to say that despite the rhetoric, the management of private industry can be so incompetent it would take your breath away. Just from my own experience, million and a half pound components manufactured for nuclear submarines scrapped off because the manufacturer cut corners. Businesses hiding many 000's profits paid to them out of the public purse because the end user private company didn't perform basic due diligence surveillance of it's supply chain, Carillion (where to start with Carillion?). Anybody wonder why the roof of the Sainsbury's in Hazel Grove is less fancy at the front than the back? Because a cock up led to it having to go on back to front, that's why.

I could go on but it would be tedious and unfortunately this petition is way too late because the back door privatisation of the NHS has now been going on for some years under this bunch of lying, deceiving scrotes who recognise the cost of everything and the value of nothing that can't be measured in financial terms.

Just saying like, I have signed it btw.

I think I'd take issue with you over Brexit mate. Since 63% of the electorate did not vote for it I'm not sure we're getting what we deserve. The real big irony of course is that the north east where the majority voted for it is likely to be the biggest loser since even Nissan are now suggesting that they will struggle to make a profit post Brexit. We know what that means in the longer term. Just as an aside on that, I bought 50 Euros this weekend for a trip to the Republic of Ireland and they cost me over £48! Since we're a net importer, the future looks more expensive, if nothing else! One of Nissan's considerations no doubt since their supply chain is global.

As for the other lot, yep, I take your point. Little Jeremy bless him, a man whose political career prior to becoming Party leader amounts to the achievement of precisely bugger all. He can't even claim the record for having voted against his own party the most times. McDonnell holds that record. The same McDonnell who once claimed the destruction of Capitalism to be his hobby and political aim. The same McDonnell who, for those of us old enough to remember, decided that it would be a idea good to play politics with the finances of London during his time with the GLC, whose antics led Thatcher to eventually abolish the GLC. A man in the same messianic mould as Derek Hatton in Liverpool. Arrogant enough to know he is right, and dumb enough not to know which battles he can and can't win. Shades of Scargill, another bell - end convinced of his own infallibility and happy to piss other peoples future up the wall in the name of political purity. 

I don't personally have a problem with politicians who change their position from time to time, I think it demonstrates a degree of open mindedness and a willingness to listen. Too many of them it seems to me are in the business of shouting in the kind of one - dimensional tones one might expect to see in a newspaper headline. Sadly, where one might expect and organization like the BBC to offer greater depth and a willingness to interrogate these people more closely we seem to have arse licking sycophancy. Actually, the future looks a little worse than being merely more expensive. Happily, everything that goes round comes around. I'm sure that somewhere amongst the generation that my son belongs to there will be a political class waiting to develop that will not jut say b*ll*cks to this, it needs to be different but will have the talent to change it. Until then, watch this space.....

I think you're probably always going to get a proportion of people who are not sufficiently engaged with something to want to exercise their right to vote. It says much about society that as we head towards the 200th anniversary of the Peterloo Massacre in which people died protesting about a system that didn't allow them to vote that so many should not take part. That's why so few referenda take place and when they do the requirements are invariably for a minimum 75% turnout and a 66% vote one way or the other. Your right, when you then get a mob of clueless politicians seeking to manipulate the situation and gain the kind of political advantage they can't achieve by their very limited talents then the sh*t really hits the fan. 

Who do you blame when someone gets shot, the person who pulled the trigger or the one who sold them the gun? The blame for the state of this country lies squarely at the feet of the voters who put these sh*t houses in power and have continued to do so.

which might be stretching the metaphor a little, but voting out and then having a pro-remain PM to implement it is just a priceless case of shooting yourself in the foot.

Either that, or she was just lying through her teeth the whole time!