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Post by countybenno on May 8, 2017 13:11:51 GMT
Well no surprise with that one, I'm just happy that he has gone to a league one club, pity we didn't get a fee for him but the very best of luck Danny I hope he makes a success of it.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 8, 2017 13:17:23 GMT
Haha yes mate, pipped me to the scoop there! Bl**dy journos, eh?!
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 8, 2017 13:24:28 GMT
On a related point, I wonder whether Lloyd's move may yield some benefits, in the form of loan players from Peterborough? Jim departed there on pretty good terms, following his stint as manager, so the club could feel well disposed to helping him and us out - especially given that the transfer involved no cost.
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Post by marketharborough on May 8, 2017 13:29:38 GMT
Always thought he would move on - glad its not right at the beginning of next season, gives JG plenty of time to build the team up. Good luck Danny - you will always be held in great esteem at EP!
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Post by countyfan on May 8, 2017 13:32:50 GMT
Sad to see him go but it doesn't bother me that much. Hopefully Jim will get 2 or 3 forwards in that can all score on a regular basis so we've not all our eggs in one basket so to speak.
Wish Danny all the best and hope he bags a hat trick against Oldham so I can wind my dad and brothers up!!
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Post by gazz on May 8, 2017 15:09:55 GMT
The only thing that bothers me is that, once again, we've lost a good player and ended up getting sod all.
The sooner we can get back to offering full time contracts and demanding fees for our players, the better. Because I'm fed up to the back teeth of seeing players make a name for themselves with us and then watching us constantly getting f**ked over by this.
It's one thing to be a stepping stone for players, but it's another thing entirely when that player gets his dream move and a three year deal, yet we're left with diddly f***ing squat to show for it.
I'll thank him for his time with us, but I really don't care what he does elsewhere. We as a club should not be simply shrugging our shoulders and saying:"oh, well" - it ain't good enough and we need to make sure we stop this from happening ASAFP.
Sorry, but that's how I feel - I'm sick of seeing it happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 15:13:08 GMT
There's a classic YB meltdown in progress this afternoon.
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Post by gazz on May 8, 2017 15:22:14 GMT
There's a classic YB meltdown in progress this afternoon. For once, I agree with what's being said by some of them. How many more players are we going to invest in, only to end up with f*** all but the money his shirt makes at Lando's kit sale? The only thing that would have made this feel worse is if he'd signed for Macc and we had to pay half his wages. We have not even got a sell-on. I thought the Leonard Curtis fire sale was bad, but this is getting worse now and I'm getting tired of it. Okay, it was inevitable, but that doesn't mean we have to keep accepting it - it's simply not good enough for a club of our size.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 15:41:23 GMT
That's the problem with part time non league football, unfortunately. We've been stung in the past by offering rubbish players multi year deals only to be stuck with them as a drain on our finances.
Every contract is a risk in that the player could underperform or suffer an injury and we'd be left paying for it. The other side of the coin is that if you protect yourself against that by offering 1 year deals, your best players can walk away for nothing at the end of it.
In addition I believe players on rolling yearly contracts don't get paid over the close season? Whilst those on multi year deals do? (willing to be corrected on that). If so that can make quite a difference to the running costs of the club in terms of the playing budget.
There is also the possibility that Danny didn't want a 2 year deal. I know I'm speculating here, but if he really wanted to make it as a pro, perhaps he didn't want the commitment of having to pay a fee for him to stand in the way of his dream move. If a 2 year deal was in front of him at the start of the season, and it was a choice between sign him for 1 season or not sign him at all I'm sure we all still would have signed him in hindsight.
It doesn't soften the blow of losing our best player of course, Jim just needs to go out and replace him and make us as competitive as possible next year.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 8, 2017 16:09:01 GMT
It doesn't soften the blow of losing our best player of course, Jim just needs to go out and replace him and make us as competitive as possible next year. And therein lies the huge challenge, as we simply won't be able to find another winger with nigh-on thirty goals in him - so it will be a case of securing the services of two or three players who can regularly find where the back of the net is, as part of an overhauled attack. Not certain that Amis can immediately develop into a player capable of fulfilling that criterion. And no easy task, either, to bring in new arrivals who will be. Let us hope that Salford's switch to full-time offers some good available options, and that Halifax go up next Saturday to create a few more...
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Post by hermannsays on May 8, 2017 16:10:37 GMT
I would have found it poor advice if either agent he had during the season let him sign on beyond the end of the season. He's a 24/25-year-old goalscorer with a dream of league football but the security of another job. It seemed destined to play out as him becoming a free agent so that anyone wanting to take a punt on a player being able to jump 2 or 3 levels wouldn't have to pay a fee.
Ultimately, I've no issue with DL taking the route he has. He went from potentially quitting football after Fylde leaving him on the bench most games near the end of the 15/16 season to getting 90 minutes most weeks and loads of goals and assists for us. To me, he did his bit and one could argue more people came back through the turnstiles because of the added excitement... even if there's no fee on him leaving. Overall it's disappointing but not surprising.
Looking forward, one thing it hopefully means is that we won't be reliant on a winger for goals. While wide players need to contribute to assists/goals, it was pretty apparent JG felt we had to play DL without defensive duties or more through the middle. If the forward line is put together in a more traditional manner with goalscoring strikers/#10s in the squad and wingers who supply and have a bit of an eye for goal, then the threat will be harder for oppositions to nullify. JG will know just what a blow this (DL leaving) feels like to fans and I'm sure he'll do everything within his power to give us an attack we can look forward to watching next season.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on May 8, 2017 16:28:11 GMT
If the forward line is put together in a more traditional manner with goalscoring strikers/#10s in the squad and wingers who supply and have a bit of an eye for goal, then the threat will be harder for oppositions to nullify. JG will know just what a blow this (DL leaving) feels like to fans and I'm sure he'll do everything within his power to give us an attack we can look forward to watching next season. Agreed, H. One thing will be sure, and that is that Jim has been giving careful thought for some time about to how to adapt to life AD (After Danny). The effect of fielding Adam Thomas out wide - assuming he stays - will be like signing a new player. I just hope that, given his success as part of a different formation with us the previous season (and, indeed, with Telford last term), we have not been unduly hasty in releasing John Marsden...
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 17:33:16 GMT
I'm sure Jim will have been preparing for this for months. Next season we need a consistent front 4 who will share 60 goals between them. That was always the aim whether Danny stayed or not, and perhaps our task has been made a little harder by his departure, but the end goal has stayed the same really.
We need to rely on one key player less, and add some real quality in the final third. If we can achieve that, then we'll be much harder to stop. While Danny was excellent, we were too one dimensional this season, and organised teams found it rather too easy to make life difficult for us. They knew if they shut down DL, and dealt with long balls, they had a good chance of taking a point (and many did).
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Post by sandbachhatter on May 8, 2017 18:08:22 GMT
If Jim was planning for next season, and including Danny in those plans assuming he'd stay, then Jim is a fool.
And Jim isn't a fool.
It'd be like planning for next season assuming we'd be one league higher, or that average attendances would increase by 1,000.
It was pretty inevitable Danny would leave for better things, and Jim will have known this for a while I imagine.
Wonder if Denton is again on our radar, depending on what Halif*cks do on Sunday?
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Post by gazz on May 8, 2017 19:42:21 GMT
For the avoidance of doubt, I said I know it was inevitable, but I don't have to like it.
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