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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:11:21 GMT
Neither of the main parties appealed to me with their election rhetoric; although as a teacher I am left leaning and very anti-Gove/Cameron/Morgan. Personally I voted Green for the very same reasons
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on May 14, 2015 20:19:21 GMT
Today's Poll suggests that a vast majority of North West Voters would back joining up with Scotland and leaving the Union together with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:24:36 GMT
Today's Poll suggests that a vast majority of North West Voters would back joining up with Scotland and leaving the Union together with them. On this side of the Pennines they'd cheerfully go it alone tha knows, Up the Peoples Republic of North Yorkshire!
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Post by gazz on May 14, 2015 21:05:16 GMT
b*ll*cks to that, my brother lives up there, has done since the early 90s. He's been on the receiving end of plenty of anti-English sentiment during his time there. How about putting a border at the Watford Gap? Let the South go it alone, leaving the rest of us to see if we can get back to enjoying being English again!
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Post by bigfudge on May 14, 2015 21:43:48 GMT
Given population and industry, Northern England would have more right to independence than Scotland...!
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Post by stuinedgeley on May 14, 2015 23:09:02 GMT
consider the tory cuts policy.... this development to greater Manchester in theory is a great idea if it speeds up progress etc....... however, who gets the blame for the inevitable cuts by the chancellor? He will just blame the elected mayor for not managing the money better.
i am all for progress but consider the amount of cuts cameron will make over the next 5 years can we really say greater manchester wont be affected?
despite the positives i feel this is nothing more than a way to deflect blame for cuts.
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Post by gazz on May 14, 2015 23:18:16 GMT
i feel this is nothing more than a way to deflect blame for cuts. In a nutshell.
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Post by dudleyhatter on May 14, 2015 23:56:41 GMT
Too true. Typical political games. We need to watch carefully to see where these 18 billion in cuts is made and then shout them from the rooftops until the ordinary voters actually realise what's happening
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Post by gazz on May 15, 2015 10:43:26 GMT
Umunna drops his leadership bid because he "doesn't want the added pressure that comes with being a leadership candidate." He also cites concerns regarding the impact on those close to him. The comments regarding his personal relationship clearly set the alarm bells ringing. Clearly not the right man to lead the party just yet, or even ever? www.itv.com/news/story/2015-05-15/chuka-umunna-drops-out-of-labour-leadership-race/
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 17:10:35 GMT
A bit disappointing to be honest, and it would be a massive shame if that means he'll never go for the leadership. Having said that, I think Burnham is the outstanding candidate at the moment now, and he'd be a good person to take labour forward.
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Post by archie on May 15, 2015 17:46:52 GMT
Burnham has had a good parliament as a shadow and much good publicity for his efforts over Hillsborough. I expect he'll be desperate for another male candidate as I don't fancy his chances against 3 women. Yvette Cooper is the only one with any public recognition, most of it negative, but the others have until September to make an impression.
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Post by gazz on May 15, 2015 17:47:28 GMT
A bit disappointing to be honest, and it would be a massive shame if that means he'll never go for the leadership. Having said that, I think Burnham is the outstanding candidate at the moment now, and he'd be a good person to take labour forward. I agree with all of that, mate. Putting aside the disappointment of his withdrawal, it says a lot for Umunna that he puts his loved ones before his own ambitions. Shows he's got a bit of integrity.
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Post by gazz on May 15, 2015 17:50:23 GMT
Burnham has had a good parliament as a shadow and much good publicity for his efforts over Hillsborough. I expect he'll be desperate for another male candidate as I don't fancy his chances against 3 women. Yvette Cooper is the only one with any public recognition, most of it negative, but the others have until September to make an impression. Very good post, Archie, I really hope Andy Burnham gets it though, I like what I've seem and heard from him so far.
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Post by gazz on May 17, 2015 12:15:16 GMT
Batten down the hatches, folks... George Osborne calls emergency July budget to reveal next wave of austerity:George Osborne will reveal how the government plans to cut £12bn from Britain’s welfare bill when he announces a fresh wave of austerity measures in his second budget in less than four months on 8 July. Full Guardian article
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 14:08:54 GMT
A bit disappointing to be honest, and it would be a massive shame if that means he'll never go for the leadership. Having said that, I think Burnham is the outstanding candidate at the moment now, and he'd be a good person to take labour forward. I agree with all of that, mate. Putting aside the disappointment of his withdrawal, it says a lot for Umunna that he puts his loved ones before his own ambitions. Shows he's got a bit of integrity. Sadly it seems that there is a bit more to this than meets the eye. He's been linked with advice to Non-Doms reference tax "efficiency", dodging to you and I. In other words off-shore it to beat the system
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