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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Apr 14, 2020 17:15:19 GMT
if he was proven to have made it up and an election was called tomorrow, he'd still probably win it and increase his majority. that majority is either entitled as f*** or thick as f***, depending on which end of their demographic it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 17:38:10 GMT
The little feller needn't have worried since the press continue to fail to hold the Tories to account for: -
1. The published mortality figures are a fiction because they only represent deaths in hospital. This on a day when figures from EU countries suggest that half of deaths are in care homes, on a day when the largest privately owned chain of care homes has lost nearly 600 residents to the virus and another one reports that 31 residents of just 1 home have succumbed.
2. The fact that despite assurances that loans would be made available to businesses struggling to make ends meet during the shut down only 1.4% of applications had been successful.
3. Matt Hancock's (Jesus wept but where do you start with this gormless f***er?) promises with regards to testing were so far out the suspicion has to be that he made the figure up on his walk to the podium.
4. The Governments deliberate failure to involve itself in the EU's PPE bulk procurement programme which has left the NHS so short of ventilators for example, that it has had to accept them from the set of the tv programme Holby City and from te German Army.
5. Why it is the businesses such as mine have designed and are now manufacturing full face masks free and gratis for the local NHS Trust because they have been close to running out.
6. Why Boris Johnson, in his recent speech (as late as the first week of February) was still proclaiming that this country was putting itself forward to act as Guinea Pig by staying open for business despite having been warned in December that this virus was potentially deadly, with no known vaccine despite the fact that vaccination is key to "herd immunity" policy.
I could go on but frankly it would be tedious. ars is right, you could pin a blue rosette to a turd and enough people would vote for it if it spoke in a posh accent and had been to Eton, oh! Hang on.....
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Apr 14, 2020 18:43:13 GMT
4. The Governments deliberate failure to involve itself in the EU's PPE bulk procurement programme which has left the NHS so short of ventilators for example, that it has had to accept them from the set of the tv programme Holby City and from te German Army. no but NYE, we've JUST delivered them so our beloved NHS can continue to function...
this appears to be have been the message on a repeat cycle every f***ing day for the last three weeks when they're asked about it at the daily update, except the frontline workers in the NHS don't seem to agree.
the 'strategy' appears to have been
- Sit on your hands because it's not going to be that serious
- Oh f*** it's serious, better get the gin distilleries manufacturing hand sanitiser
- Say on a daily basis 'we've just delivered it' and sending love and kisses (or hot air) up the NHS's arse, while not actually providing the PPE, thus they are beginning to die
a bit w**k.
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Post by gazz on Apr 14, 2020 18:58:50 GMT
I know it was stated at the beginning of this thread that it was best to keep politics out of the discussion, but when the government have for all intents and purposes acted as enabler for this horrible disease and allowed it to take hold before "doing the right things, at the right times" (insert profanity here), we have no alternative but to call them out for being the absolute f***ing useless/sinister/scheming (delete where applicable) arseholes that they are.
Boris Johnson is the biggest turd in the U-bend, because he put this bunch of w**kers together.
Vote Tory, eat, drink and be merry - for tomorrow we die.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Apr 14, 2020 19:57:58 GMT
We're on the Tory-bashing thread, as opposed to the CV Confessional one, matey - so it's all good!
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Post by gazz on Apr 14, 2020 19:59:31 GMT
We're on the Tory-bashing thread, as opposed to the CV Confessional one, matey - so it's all good! I'm really not having a good day today!
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Post by hermannsays on Apr 14, 2020 21:57:36 GMT
Last week Jeremy Hunt said a lot of work was done after the pandemic test of October 2016 to prepare the NHS for this kind of thing.
So, just like I'm sure the journalists at the press conferences have done (yeah!), I looked up ICU bed numbers for NHS England from October 2016 and compared them to the latest data on NHS's website (covering up to February this year).
In those 40 months, we arrived at 63 more adult ICU beds in England. When taking account of all ICU beds (adult, paediatric and neonatal), we had fewer ICU beds in Feb this year than we had at the point the NHS failed the stress test.
Another question we might not hear asked is why, when we knew we would be using data modelling to inform a response, we didn't ensure we got to a point where we would be able to carry out lots of testing quickly... you know, to be able to input, er, data into the modelling.
Week 1 "What's the modelling telling us?" "Er, well PM, it's looking good at the moment with these 8 tests that have been done on Michael Gove's family, the Queen's corgis and that actor off the Sky advert." So if it wasn't ICU capacity or testing capacity, it must have been the ventilators they worked on... or PPE... or logistical planning...
When Hunt could only back up his claim of doing lots to prepare the NHS by citing a new Nightingale hospital, you can see why.
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Post by gazz on Apr 14, 2020 22:07:37 GMT
Last week Jeremy Hunt said a lot of work was done after the pandemic test of October 2016 to prepare the NHS for this kind of thing. So, just like I'm sure the journalists at the press conferences have done (yeah!), I looked up ICU bed numbers for NHS England from October 2016 and compared them to the latest data on NHS's website (covering up to February this year). In those 40 months, we arrived at 63 more adult ICU beds in England. When taking account of all ICU beds (adult, paediatric and neonatal), we had fewer ICU beds in Feb this year than we had at the point the NHS failed the stress test. Another question we might not hear asked is why, when we knew we would be using data modelling to inform a response, we didn't ensure we got to a point where we would be able to carry out lots of testing quickly... you know, to be able to input, er, data into the modelling. Week 1 "What's the modelling telling us?" "Er, well PM, it's looking good at the moment with these 8 tests that have been done on Michael Gove's family, the Queen's corgis and that actor off the Sky advert." So if it wasn't ICU capacity or testing capacity, it must have been the ventilators they worked on... or PPE... or logistical planning... When Hunt could only back up his claim of doing lots to prepare the NHS by citing a new Nightingale hospital, you can see why. Great post, mate and great research.
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Post by bringbacklenwhite on Apr 15, 2020 8:34:34 GMT
I am just wondering where all this Nightingale Hospital equipment has been stockpiled as it has become available very quickly.
Why wasn't it on the empty wards across the country, that we hear about every year, ready for the flu/elderly rush that happens in the winters.
Just a thought.
Meanwhile , well done to the army of workers who have thrown these facilities together in such a short space of time.
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Post by gazz on Apr 15, 2020 12:37:12 GMT
I am just wondering where all this Nightingale Hospital equipment has been stockpiled as it has become available very quickly. Why wasn't it on the empty wards across the country, that we hear about every year, ready for the flu/elderly rush that happens in the winters. Just a thought. Meanwhile , well done to the army of workers who have thrown these facilities together in such a short space of time.
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Post by gazz on Apr 15, 2020 12:59:16 GMT
I can't stand Piers Morgan, but he's got this absolutely right:
This government really are a f***ing shambles.
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Apr 15, 2020 13:32:32 GMT
Frighteningly, old Piers is talking a fair amount of sense amid the crisis. Am almost no longer ashamed to say that we went to the same school...
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Post by hatter_in_macc on Apr 15, 2020 16:23:53 GMT
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Post by another_ruined_saturday on Apr 15, 2020 19:11:51 GMT
So if it wasn't ICU capacity or testing capacity, it must have been the ventilators they worked on... or PPE... or logistical planning... come on herm, logistical planning? they were still running windows XP until about ten minutes ago, hence the wannacry hack.
all the leeches have escaped under the tories, and this has been the only PPE available recently.
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Post by ceefer on Apr 15, 2020 19:19:43 GMT
So if it wasn't ICU capacity or testing capacity, it must have been the ventilators they worked on... or PPE... or logistical planning... come on herm, logistical planning? they were still running windows XP until about ten minutes ago, hence the wannacry hack.
all the leeches have escaped under the tories, and this has been the only PPE available recently.
And extremely ironic that Hunt was chairing an enquiry into the very NHS he ran into the ground and totally demotivated a lot of NHS staff.... the very ppl who the country are now relying and are putting their lives on the line on in these difficult times. These staff are doing 13 hour shifts!!!
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